Well "Mr" NYU student, how will you react to someone selling upgrades on your airline? The one that is going to be able to charge more from Los Angeles to Las Vegas for superior luxury.
A shrewd seller going to eBay rather than, say, here to sell his upgrade because eBay has more buyers that are ignorant of the mechanics of airlines and, therefore, more likely to pay more money for transportation vouchers etc.? Sounds pretty reasonable to me (and well-thought-out by the seller!)
eBay sellers preying on information asymmetry is not unheard of; but someone on a full-fare economy class ticket paying several hundred dollars for a single domestic upgrade seems more than just a huge waste; it would give example to the old adage that a fool (or an ignoramus) and his money are soon parted.
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eBay sellers preying on information asymmetry is not unheard of; but someone on a full-fare economy class ticket paying several hundred dollars for a single domestic upgrade seems more than just a huge waste; it would give example to the old adage that a fool and his money are soon parted.
But not impossible. 5-10 years ago I probably didn't know what "a full fare economy class ticket" meant and, if I had the means, would probably have jumped at the chance to pay $300 for a one-way upgrade if the difference between heavily discounted Y and F was significant.
Don't ever forget - Ebay will drop a dime on you in a heartbeat. It's been pointed out many times on FT that - at least in the case of Starwood and American Airlines - Ebay will release your personal information to third parties. To me the disturbing thing here is that Ebay gave out a user's info to a party not involved in a transaction, something I think should never ever happen as long as no laws are broken (yes a RULE was broken - but NOT a law).
But not impossible. 5-10 years ago I probably didn't know what "a full fare economy class ticket" meant and, if I had the means, would probably have jumped at the chance to pay $300 for a one-way upgrade if the difference between heavily discounted Y and F was significant.
Certainly not impossible, but doesn't seem to be the case in the OP's circumstance.
When you say "heavily-discounted Y" in the above, do you mean:
1) a "heavily-discounted" coach tickets regardless of actual fare basis code; or
2) a cheap coach ticket sold as a proper Y fare and booked into Y inventory; or
3) something else?
From the looks of things, is there any evidence that the OP's buyers felt they were being ripped off for several hundred dollars? It seems like the issue here is more that AA is concerned that it gets ripped off this way and takes measures to protect its interests as AA sees it.
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Don't ever forget - Ebay will drop a dime on you in a heartbeat. It's been pointed out many times on FT that - at least in the case of Starwood and American Airlines - Ebay will release your personal information to third parties. To me the disturbing thing here is that Ebay gave out a user's info to a party not involved in a transaction, something I think should never ever happen as long as no laws are broken (yes a RULE was broken - but NOT a law).
eBay is known to give out such info routinely enough -- that is eBay is a personal data surrender monkey. But eBay users have also been known to be responsible for giving out their own information, even without eBay getting an opportunity to be a data surrender monkey.
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To me the disturbing thing here is that Ebay gave out a user's info to a party not involved in a transaction, something I think should never ever happen as long as no laws are broken (yes a RULE was broken - but NOT a law).
As has already been pointed out, the OP's info was pretty easy to find without eBay's help. Regardless, that is not what this thread is really about.
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I had recieved a couple vouchers (5) which I never would have used... valid for a domestic upgrade from a full-fare economy class ticket.
I placed the things on eBay, and sure enough... my Advantage account was frozen.
I spoke to the AA rep who froze my account, and he explained to me that I had to get all 5 of the certificates back to him. After buying all of the certificates back from the people I sold them to (and having to pay a pretty penny to do so as they really did not want to part with the vouchers), I overnighted all of the vouchers back to AA.
I know as a fact they received my package on the 28th -- though my account is still frozen. Does anyone have any experience with this matter?
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You should already know the answer, since you did the same thing to UA and they did the same thing to you. How did that turn out?
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Originally posted by unitedPSbusiness in another thread: In all honesty, I think that would be a dumb move...
If they refused to unlock my account, I would bring ALL business elsewhere.
I fly about 60k miles/year right now and that is only bound to increase.
My father flies well over 100k per year (full fare first class), and I can easily get him to move to AA.
The violation that got my account placed on audit is something I no longer participate in. Regardless, I sent a lot of business over to United; trevelers who had elite status on other airlines who now fly united frequently.
How about the people that sell and list a different item and include vouchers, VIP's, etc. I remember reading somewhere about someone auctioning an envelope, and included inside as a bonus were either miles or upgrades. Even though we all know that they are in fact selling these benefits, can their accounts also be frozen/closed?
How about the people that sell and list a different item and include vouchers, VIP's, etc. I remember reading somewhere about someone auctioning an envelope, and included inside as a bonus were either miles or upgrades. Even though we all know that they are in fact selling these benefits, can their accounts also be frozen/closed?
Yes, they can be frozen/closed when AA makes an identification.
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