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Old Feb 7, 06, 4:17 am   #16
 
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BA flights LGW-BRU return, outbound in cheap eco, inbound in Biz:

01/27/06 BRITISH AIRWAYS 4985 J BRU LGW 500 625 1,125
01/26/06 BRITISH AIRWAYS 4986 M LGW BRU 51 199 250


those numbers are mileage / bonus / total.

YTD qpoints = 1,250, qmiles = 1,000.
These are the only flights posted to AA this year.

=> I believe that the 500 qp/qm minimum is still in place for cheapo BA flights.

Stewie

PS - I have no view on the number of counters AA runs

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Old Feb 7, 06, 6:04 am   #17
 
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I flew TXL to LHR in BA discount coach on 2/5. When the miles post, I'll report back.
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Old Feb 7, 06, 10:47 am   #18
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I flew TXL to LHR in BA discount coach on 2/5. When the miles post, I'll report back.
Again, it has nothing to do with the posted miles, it's the difference in the Q-miles/Q-points counters from before and after the flights-- see post 16.

If you take note of those today, before the flight posts, we can assess.
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Old Feb 7, 06, 11:19 am   #19
 
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I just got back from a weekender to Stockholm (LHR-ARN-LHR) on BA. I bought the ticket off aa.com, as I figured I'd never get any BA ExecClub tier points for it and might as well go for the minimyum q points/miles for AA. It was an 'M' ticket. The section in 'view my miles' gives me 25% (228) of the actual flown miles (911) plus some bonus miles (232...don't know how they figured that one):

02/01/06 BRITISH AIRWAYS 780 M LHR ARN 228 232 460

However under the tracker on the left side of the page I was given 500 q points and 500 q miles. (This was my first flight this year I claimed AA credit for). The return flight on Monday hasn't posted anything yet.

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Old Feb 7, 06, 11:54 am   #20
 
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So it seems like the 500 q-point/mile minimum is, unsurprisingly perhaps, intact, at least for regular earning. The only question which remains is the possibility of some difference in counting q-points for challenges since both anomalous reports were from people on a challenge. Very interesting...

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Old Feb 7, 06, 12:30 pm   #21
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I just got back from a weekender to Stockholm (LHR-ARN-LHR) on BA. I bought the ticket off aa.com, as I figured I'd never get any BA ExecClub tier points for it and might as well go for the minimyum q points/miles for AA. It was an 'M' ticket. The section in 'view my miles' gives me 25% (228) of the actual flown miles (911) plus some bonus miles (232...don't know how they figured that one):

02/01/06 BRITISH AIRWAYS 780 M LHR ARN 228 232 460

However under the tracker on the left side of the page I was given 500 q points and 500 q miles. (This was my first flight this year I claimed AA credit for). The return flight on Monday hasn't posted anything yet.

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I don't know how they got 232, but the difference in calculation of LHR-ARN vs. LON-STO (airport-airport vs city center - city center) is c. 5 miles. But then I'd expect something like 228 to 223.

The 500 EQMs/EQPs minimum for BA flights is what I was seeing on the AA.com counters too -- even for the cheap BA flights last year. Anyone who barely qualified for an elite level and had "cheap" short-haul BA flights credited to BA would have felt the difference if the AA.com displayed counters for EQMs/EQPs were incorrect. So until further information comes along, I'm going with the AA.com displayed counters for EQMs/EQPs. (... and I'm not going for a challenge either.)
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Old Feb 7, 06, 12:35 pm   #22
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So it seems like the 500 q-point/mile minimum is, unsurprisingly perhaps, intact, at least for regular earning. The only question which remains is the possibility of some difference in counting q-points for challenges since both anomalous reports were from people on a challenge. Very interesting...

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With challenges, it seems that the new, higher elite status is reflected on AA.com immediately upon the EQP threshold being crossed (i.e., when a flight segment posts).

When going for a new, higher elite status via the non-challenge/routine method, does the change in status get reflected immediately when the flights get posted or is there some kind of lag after posting?
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Old Feb 7, 06, 4:50 pm   #23
 
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Again, it has nothing to do with the posted miles, it's the difference in the Q-miles/Q-points counters from before and after the flights-- see post 16.

If you take note of those today, before the flight posts, we can assess.

Understood, and noted. Thanks.
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Old Feb 7, 06, 5:00 pm   #24
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Again, it has nothing to do with the posted miles, it's the difference in the Q-miles/Q-points counters from before and after the flights-- see post 16.

If you take note of those today, before the flight posts, we can assess.
In my december experience of LCY-FRA-SIN_MEL, the AA website showed that it had counted qpoints of 500 for LCY-FRA, however when I spoke to AA regarding the challenge, they said that it showed a total based on 125 being accrued

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Old Feb 8, 06, 12:42 pm   #25
 
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Again, it has nothing to do with the posted miles, it's the difference in the Q-miles/Q-points counters from before and after the flights-- see post 16.

If you take note of those today, before the flight posts, we can assess.
2/5 AA 1442 F ORD DCA 612 918 1530
AA 67 Y LHR ORD 3953 3953 7906
AA 6593 (BA 981) Y TXL LHR 590 590 1180
Before above posted, Q points = 26000; Q miles = 26098
After above posted, Q points = 33348; Q miles = 31253

Please assess.
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Old Feb 8, 06, 12:48 pm   #26
 
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2/5 AA 1442 F ORD DCA 612 918 1530
AA 67 Y LHR ORD 3953 3953 7906
AA 6593 (BA 981) Y TXL LHR 590 590 1180
Before above posted, Q points = 26000; Q miles = 26098
After above posted, Q points = 33348; Q miles = 31253

Please assess.
Not really relevant to the current thread since AA code shares post like AA flights, not like BA flights.

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Old Feb 8, 06, 2:03 pm   #27
 
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Got it. Thanks
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Old Feb 8, 06, 2:26 pm   #28
 
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This is mainly OT, but not entirely.

What if someone you knew had all their YTD q-points come in at 1.5 per mi. (to 3 decimal points) despite 1 "F" and 4 "Q" flights, the Qs upgraded due to status? Not that the person would be complaining, mind, but maybe there's something goofy in the system?
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Old Feb 8, 06, 3:05 pm   #29
 
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The Q I can't explain but isn't F supposed to earn 1.5 points/mile?
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The Q I can't explain but isn't F supposed to earn 1.5 points/mile?
Yes. My point.
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