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Old Jul 6, 06, 4:17 pm   #46
 
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If you live in canada, I think you have to answer a math question to get any benefits. I'm kidding. http://www.cinemark.com/promo/aabmiles/rules2.htm
I guess they know better than to ask Americans to answer a math question.

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Old Jul 6, 06, 4:56 pm   #47
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Just on the scant chance that someone in the future does a search...
Yeah, but we know no one does that

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Old Jul 6, 06, 6:52 pm   #48
 
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eVips

Well, folks, I did indeed try the Search function and it came back with a long list of threads containing thousands of messages. Unfortunately, the precise positions within each thread where "evip" or evips" is contained is not show.

I have been PLT for a few months and I do not know this term. I have never heard it when talking to Reservations or seen it on aa.com when reviewing my flights.

Would anyone care to tell me what it means?

Thanks!
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Old Jul 6, 06, 7:50 pm   #49
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These are electronic systemwide upgrades that can be applied to any AA flight, assuming the proper inventory availability, and can be used for up to three segments in one direction, e.g. SMF-DFW-ORD-DEL, to the next class of service. 8 eVIPs are awarded annually to Executive Platinums, and 4 eVIPs to those who cross 2 million mile threshholds and every million miles thereafter. The eVIPs are good from the time they are issued through the following year and until Feb 28 after that - eVIPs earned this month by 2M+ or gaining EXP will be valid through 29 Feb 2008. (VIPOW is another term you may see when the many searched threads pop up - they were called this when they were paper certificates good for one year from issue, if memory serves, like the domestic "stickers" that now have unlimited longevity.)

These are valuable enough some who cross the one million miles ever earned threshhold will contemplate changing their address of record to a non-"domestic" address to gain these instead of 8 500-mile "sticker" upgrades, in spite of the chance, admittedly slim, of losing it all if AA discovers their petit fraud.

If you read the Executive Platinum Guide found on aa.com, it will describe these eVIPs.

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Well, folks, I did indeed try the Search function and it came back with a long list of threads containing thousands of messages. Unfortunately, the precise positions within each thread where "evip" or evips" is contained is not show.

I have been PLT for a few months and I do not know this term. I have never heard it when talking to Reservations or seen it on aa.com when reviewing my flights.

Would anyone care to tell me what it means?

Thanks!
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Old Jul 6, 06, 8:57 pm   #50
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You could join the Admirals Club - I don't know if they give you two bag tags when you join anymore
At least as of February 2006, two bag tags still come with AC membership when you first sign up. Maybe that's part of the reason that it costs an extra $50 for a new membership compared to a renewal membership.
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Old Jul 6, 06, 9:33 pm   #51
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By George, that's it! $25 for a tag... awesome marketing, no? Oh, yeah, they have to process the membership and issue the membership card... oh, they do that every year at no extra cost. It must be incentive not to let out membership lapse.

It's been a while since I signed up, so thanks for the update. I still have a white tag with silver stars and a little black leather belt on one of my laptop bags; they used to send them annually. (They must be saving us $50 a year, right?)

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At least as of February 2006, two bag tags still come with AC membership when you first sign up. Maybe that's part of the reason that it costs an extra $50 for a new membership compared to a renewal membership.
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Old Jul 7, 06, 12:13 am   #52
 
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I see no one can torture the information out of you.
Well, no one can torture you to actually look it up..

In any case, you asked if you got anything, not what you got.
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Old Jul 7, 06, 1:44 am   #53
 
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These are electronic systemwide upgrades that can be applied to any AA flight, assuming the proper inventory availability, and can be used for up to three segments in one direction, e.g. SMF-DFW-ORD-DEL, to the next class of service. 8 eVIPs are awarded annually to Executive Platinums, and 4 eVIPs to those who cross 2 million mile threshholds and every million miles thereafter. The eVIPs are good from the time they are issued through the following year and until Feb 28 after that - eVIPs earned this month by 2M+ or gaining EXP will be valid through 29 Feb 2008. (VIPOW is another term you may see when the many searched threads pop up - they were called this when they were paper certificates good for one year from issue, if memory serves, like the domestic "stickers" that now have unlimited longevity.)

These are valuable enough some who cross the one million miles ever earned threshhold will contemplate changing their address of record to a non-"domestic" address to gain these instead of 8 500-mile "sticker" upgrades, in spite of the chance, admittedly slim, of losing it all if AA discovers their petit fraud.

If you read the Executive Platinum Guide found on aa.com, it will describe these eVIPs.
Thank you.

Wow! You are a living encyclopedia of AA knowledge.

So tell me this, has anyone on flyertalk.com ever written to AA to complain about this difference in treatment between US and foreign addressed AAdvantage members, and, if so, what was the result?
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Old Jul 7, 06, 2:08 am   #54
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Well, folks, I did indeed try the Search function and it came back with a long list of threads containing thousands of messages.
No surprise there. The FT search engine can be rather intimidating if you don't select the exact search terms. Fortunately, there are some FTers willing to point folks in the right direction, either with the correct search terms or a link to where the information can be found (and, in some cases, even the answer you're looking for).
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Old Jul 7, 06, 9:01 am   #55
 
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Thank you.

Wow! You are a living encyclopedia of AA knowledge.

So tell me this, has anyone on flyertalk.com ever written to AA to complain about this difference in treatment between US and foreign addressed AAdvantage members, and, if so, what was the result?
Most million-mile flyers don't even know how the foreign ones are treated. Remember, it is an undocumented program.

AA made the exception for foreign members after they got complaints from foreign million-milers that they never flew AA domestic, so had no opportunity to use the stickers (they just flew LHR-JFK and return, for example). AA meant this to be a reward, not a sharp stick in the eye, so they started giving foreigners VIPs instead of stickers.

I'm confident that a letter to AA would not change their policy. Take your 8 stickers and be happy.
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Old Jul 7, 06, 9:06 am   #56
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Most million-mile flyers don't even know how the foreign ones are treated. Remember, it is an undocumented program.

AA made the exception for foreign members after they got complaints from foreign million-milers that they never flew AA domestic, so had no opportunity to use the stickers (they just flew LHR-JFK and return, for example). AA meant this to be a reward, not a sharp stick in the eye, so they started giving foreigners VIPs instead of stickers.

I'm confident that a letter to AA would not change their policy. Take your 8 stickers and be happy.


And, several have written to complain and AAdvantage has a specific form letter (that has been posted) in response. They won't be changing their policy-- except to make it stricter.
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Old Jul 7, 06, 9:35 am   #57
 
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So list a foreign address if you are about to hit 1 MM. Everything is sent by email anyway so your listed address doesn't really matter so much.
Then those expensive luggage tags will go to that foreign address!
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Old Jul 7, 06, 9:44 am   #58
 
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Then those expensive luggage tags will go to that foreign address!
You can fly there to pick up your mail, and use the EVIPs to upgrade.
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Old Jul 7, 06, 10:24 am   #59
 
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And, several have written to complain and AAdvantage has a specific form letter (that has been posted) in response. They won't be changing their policy-- except to make it stricter.

Stricter sounds like an interesting 'insight' tho JonNYC may not have meant it that way.

Since there have been threads on making 1MM with heavy credit card useage .. the 1MM level is not what it used to be. Personally with all the griping about the North America vs Non NA address issues you might be thankful that the non-documented feature still existed when you made the 1MM. It could be made 'stricter' at any time!
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Old Jul 7, 06, 11:50 am   #60
 
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I'm thrilled that I'll get stickers, rather than eVIPs, when I cross 1MM in the next few months. I'm a 95% domestic EXP with a 95% domestic EXP husband, so between the two of us, we have plenty of eVIPs. And eVIPs expire... stickers will (ahem) stick around until I drop back to PLT or GLD.
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