Was this with a stopover? I think, although I may be wrong on this that if this transit was <24 hours, they would count as co-terminals, but if you are stopping for more than 24, then they're technically different.
It was less than 6 hours, I believe. Everything else was fine, but the agent said my "arunk" counted as a segmment and put me at 17. I had to change to DFW-SFO-HKG from SAN-SJC/SFO-HKG.
It is my impression that if the open-jaw is the origin and destination stopovers are not allowed in either.
I am fairly certain they were willing to let me stopover in the destination city, but I no longer have the reservation, so I am not positive. I believe I had both a transit and a stopover at SFO, and that it was my final destination, with an origin at DFW.
Yeah, please do that at all times when posting anything I might read, regardless of how improbable. Your cooperation is appreciated!
I now understand what you're trying to say. Here's an example:
DFW (start of itinerary) - LAX (stopover) - SYD (stopover) - PER (stopover) - MEL (stopover) - HKG (stopover) - LAX (end of itinerary)
You're trying to say that because LAX is one end of the open jaw, having a stopover in LAX earlier in the itinerary would result in there being 2 stopovers in LAX, which is not allowed.
Before the recent posts in this thread, I had not seen anything in the official rules or in any flyertalk thread which said that having an open jaw consisting of the beginning and ending cities would cause the passenger to have a stopover in the ending city. (I'm talking about the rules and threads that specifically apply to oneworld awards using AA miles.)
But I am going to take your word for it and add this restriction to the first post of this thread.
The original itinerary in that thread had just one connection through ORD (plus two stopovers). Eliminating the open jaw presumably resulted in the itinerary having two connections through ORD (plus one stopover). So, the connection/open jaw limitation was not an issue in that thread.
If 2 connections and 1 stopover are allowed for any city except the originating city and if we assume that the final city is part of an open jaw, then why wouldn't 2 connections be allowed through the final city? The 1 allowed stopover (but none of the allowed connections) for that city would be used by the open jaw. Correct? If not, then I'm real confused....
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USING A BUSINESS CLASS AWARD ON FLIGHTS THAT DO NOT HAVE A BUSINESS CLASS CABIN
This section applies only to a person who is using a business class award.
The person is entitled to first class travel on American Airlines for a flight that does not have a business class cabin, if there is "Z" availability for that flight. If "Z" is unavailable but "T" is available, then the person must travel in economy class.
For a flight on a oneworld airline other than American Airlines, the person must travel in economy class (assuming that there is "X" availability).
Just making sure I read this correctly.
So if I do a One World Business Class with IB and BA only, I will actually only get to be in economy class only?
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So is there no business class when there are two classes of service?
This varies by airline, but generally there is no first class when there are 2 classes of service outside of the US. On both BA and IB all of the 2-class flights have business class (while the same kind of flight on AA would be called first class). Same is true for QF, CX, LA, AY (EI no longer has any short-haul business class, having gone to the LCC model). So for Oneworld it is always J plus Y, except on AA where it is F plus Y for most US flights and J plus Y for Canada/Mexico/Caribbean flights. To further confuse things, AA domestic J is considerably nicer than domestic F (i.e. business class is a superior service category than first in those cases).
