Incident just now - AA flight JFK - RDU

747_not_777 · Feb 20, 13, 1:35 pm

A colleague just messaged me from his AA flight JFK - RDU.

Text read: "Full scale emergency immediately after take-off, landed straight back at JFK. Cabin started to fill with smoke. Landed safe. Fire trucks alongside as we landed. Need a beer."

"Immediately after take off. Then smoke went."

"Can't get off as brakes are too hot and we are parked away from terminal. Fire trucks need to spray the wheels in case they catch fire. Hopefully not too long now."

Anyone know any more?

UPDATE:

And just sent this update: "Back in terminal now. Can't see plane. All happened fast. Smoke seemed to come from cockpit into the cabin. I was in a row near the back and copied off-duty flight attendant ahead adopt crash position. Just a tad concerning I have to say. It was a heavy landing."

viking737 · Feb 20, 13, 1:43 pm

American flight or American Eagle?

chfenton · Feb 20, 13, 1:44 pm

would be AE 4403. I can see the circle and return to JFK on flight aware.

ESpen36 · Feb 20, 13, 1:44 pm

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Originally Posted by 747_not_777

A colleague just messaged me from his AA flight JFK - RDU.

Text read: "Full scale emergency ...

How is anything involving a RJ "full scale?"

In all seriousness, I hope that the crew and pax are okay.

It is not yet posted on http://avherald.com/

jtav559 · Feb 20, 13, 2:19 pm

Yikes stripes. Glad everyone is ok.

I am sure that one of the passengers was able to snag some video that will be posted eventually.

sellouts · Feb 20, 13, 3:14 pm

Had one of these overweight landings at KMIA last year in a 737. Always an adventure as the pilots make sure to get the plane down as close to the beginning of the runway as possible to maximize stopping distance.

Glad everyone is ok and thankfully it wasn't severe enough for an evacuation.

The (pretty empty) flight aware link for the flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...950Z/KJFK/KRDU

I'm sure it'll make it up on AVHerald soon.

MSPeconomist · Feb 20, 13, 3:23 pm

The re-do should have left JFK 45 minutes ago, but there's no sign of activity for the new flight on flight aware.

747_not_777 · Feb 20, 13, 3:26 pm

My colleague has just boarded a different plane which AA has put on. Strangely, he jokes, not too many passengers on board this time!

Cathay Boy · Feb 20, 13, 5:04 pm

All seriousness, how old are those AE birds? When I fly ORD to PHL on those B-planes I feel very unsafe...

gooseman13 · Feb 20, 13, 6:08 pm

I assume younger than most of the AA mainline MD-80s.

jtav559 · Feb 20, 13, 7:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Cathay Boy

All seriousness, how old are those AE birds? When I fly ORD to PHL on those B-planes I feel very unsafe...

Can't be more than 15 years old or so (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_ERJ_145_family).

Which in plane years, is middle aged (when maintained right). However, with RJ's - they do alot of cycles compared to a 767-ish plane which has longer cycles. More cycles=more landings, passenger traffic, pressurization and depressurization, etc. etc.

Think of how many times you can lightly squeeze a soda cup from McD's before the paper or plastic begins to get a bit more pliable. Same theory applies to fuselages and equipment.

747_not_777 · Feb 21, 13, 12:19 am

Nothing on AVHerland.com yet, but I did see this: http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1038174

747_not_777 · Feb 23, 13, 3:36 am

Online now: http://www.avherald.com/h?article=45e27ade&opt=0