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American eagle ord-ewr on a regional jet?
I was just noticing that American seems to be de-emphasizing Ord-ewr service. I was originally booked on a flt that left ord around 10 pm. This was booked using miles. Then I got a schedule change that I was moved to the 6:25 pm flt which would have been my first choice if it had been available. Now that is the last flight of the day! At one point there was aist hourly service to ewr iirc.
And to top it off its a Canadair regional jet! Should be different.
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AA ORD-EWR is all CR7 tomorrow, just as it is for ORD-ATL. United ORD-EWR is a mix of mainline and E70. There are lots of ~60-76-passenger regional jets operating between even the biggest U.S. airports.
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AA ORD-EWR is all CR7 tomorrow, just as it is for ORD-ATL. United ORD-EWR is a mix of mainline and E70. There are lots of ~60-76-passenger regional jets operating between even the biggest U.S. airports.
You'll find on hub-hub routes operating by a competitor that has hubs in both airports that the competition often uses regional jets.
E.g., AA ORD-DEN, ORD-EWR, ORD-IAH.
E.g., UA ORD-DFW, ORD-MIA
E.g., DL LGA-ORD
AA's service and schedule on the ORD-LGA route (more important for business traffic between the two cities) is definitely the winner vs. UA and DL.
A long time ago, AA ran hourly mainline jets between Detroit and Chicago, as well. Now, it's several 44-50 seaters a day.
Newark is the home of UA's giant NYC hub. Doesn't make sense for AA to fly mainline planes on that route - just like UA has made a similar decision on certain routes from its hubs to MIA and DFW. AA's two-class CRJ700 is plenty comfortable for that short flight.
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Originally Posted by steve4031
I was just noticing that American seems to be de-emphasizing Ord-ewr service. I was originally booked on a flt that left ord around 10 pm. This was booked using miles. Then I got a schedule change that I was moved to the 6:25 pm flt which would have been my first choice if it had been available. Now that is the last flight of the day! At one point there was aist hourly service to ewr iirc.
And to top it off its a Canadair regional jet! Should be different.
There are some very heavy January cutbacks from ORD for both AA and UA. These flights will come back very soon though. This is not the first or last time there will be a pull back in January (when travel hits rock bottom).
For example, AA is still operating the late 10:45 ORD-PHL but has canned the dinnertime flight for the month so there is a gap from 3:00 to 10:45. Meanwhile, UA has canned their late flight meaning the last flight to PHL is at 6:30.
I was just noticing that American seems to be de-emphasizing Ord-ewr service. I was originally booked on a flt that left ord around 10 pm. This was booked using miles. Then I got a schedule change that I was moved to the 6:25 pm flt which would have been my first choice if it had been available. Now that is the last flight of the day! At one point there was aist hourly service to ewr iirc.
And to top it off its a Canadair regional jet! Should be different.
I'm not sure what the distinction is between smaller mainline jets and larger RJ's. AA runs a CR7 on its two last flights ORD-EWR. They have 9F and are hardly the original 200 "tubes". Those headed to NYC on AA also have an 8:40 PM option on mainline to LGA.
It's all about demand and capacity. Nobody here knows, but I suspect that with the time zone, the demand for later service to EWR in higher fare brackets is likely lower than the good old days.
For those wedded to both EWR and mainline, UA has a 320 at 7:30 PM (as well as a 170 at 9:02 PM).
UA is replacing many of the 319/320/757s to LGA with E70s, there was a thread on the UA forum several weeks ago. But of course all of the UA people are bent out of shape that they don't get Channel 9 and receive a processed snack box instead of a $5 processed airline meal. Probably only a matter of time until AA replaces more flying currently done by mainline to RJs from ORD. Eagle has creeped up the H concourse, previously was restricted to G and also American Connection/Chautauqua operates from L concourse.
If AA won't fly mainline year round from ORD to EWR I doubt it will return to HPN in the near future
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A long time ago, AA ran hourly mainline jets between Detroit and Chicago, as well. Now, it's several 44-50 seaters a day.
Newark is the home of UA's giant NYC hub. Doesn't make sense for AA to fly mainline planes on that route - just like UA has made a similar decision on certain routes from its hubs to MIA and DFW. AA's two-class CRJ700 is plenty comfortable for that short flight.
Until the merger there was no UAL mainline to MIA, and no service whatsoever to FLL or PBI although CO has always been big at FLL and had mainline to CLE/EWR/IAH from PBI and MIA.
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AA has been running at least one CR7 on and off the EWR-ORD route since at least 2010.
I sat across the aisle from an Eagle FA in 2010 that was flying back home after completing EWR-ORD, and told her that I didn't realize Eagle flew that route...
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AA's service and schedule on the ORD-LGA route (more important for business traffic between the two cities) is definitely the winner vs. UA and DL.
Hardly - using Monday Jan 28 as an example both AA and UA have 14 non stops and DL which until a few years ago didn't even serve the route has 11 non stops.
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Hardly - using Monday Jan 28 as an example both AA and UA have 14 non stops and DL which until a few years ago didn't even serve the route has 11 non stops.
Many of those UA flights are on E70s. All the DL flights are on E70s. And during heavier travel periods AA goes to 18x daily which UA doesn't match. AA consistently flies mainline aircraft on a schedule that is never surpassed by the competition providing F service (on planes with more F seats) that is leagues above UA and DL on that route. And DL uses the Marine Terminal with no club offering at LGA. In my book, that makes AA the clear winner.
