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Old Jan 11, 13, 5:50 pm   #1
 
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Any tips for my crazy HNL itinerary?

LAX-LIH(AA)-HNL(HA) - 60 minute layover in LIH
HNL-LIH(HNL)-LAX (AA) - 35 minute layover in LIH

I figure it's a valid layover since AA sold it, but will I make the 35 minute layover in LIH? Will I have re-check bags in LIH coming back to LAX?
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Old Jan 11, 13, 6:00 pm   #2
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Quite honestly, your bags really stand little to no chance of being transferred from flight to flight.

You should be bringing carry-on only.
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Old Jan 11, 13, 6:33 pm   #3
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Quite honestly, your bags really stand little to no chance of being transferred from flight to flight.

You should be bringing carry-on only.
Why do you say that? If it is a legal connection, it is based on logistics that say that the bags can be transferred. Do you have some data to support the converse, or is this just unfounded speculation?

But, yes, carry-on anyway. It's just easier

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OP, what exactly do you find to be crazy about this itinerary? Is this a quick turnaround MR?
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Old Jan 11, 13, 7:08 pm   #5
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Why do you say that? If it is a legal connection, it is based on logistics that say that the bags can be transferred.
What's the minimum connecting time at LIH, though? I found this in an updated 2006 thread in the Hawaii forum. Wonder if the 75 min figure is still in place.

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Old Jan 11, 13, 7:11 pm   #6
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What's the minimum connecting time at LIH, though? I found this in an updated 2006 thread in the Hawaii forum. Wonder if the 75 min figure is still in place.
If AA sold the flight, I'd be surprised if they'd sell something that didn't meet MCT.

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Old Jan 11, 13, 7:20 pm   #7
 
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I assume you have a great reason for going on to HNL.

Otherwise my advice is to just go to Kauai, my favorite spot in the world
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Old Jan 11, 13, 7:35 pm   #8
 
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It can't take that long to walk the length of the airport, but it wouldn't take much of a delay to cause issues. Especially regarding the return flight. Is the AA flight the last of the day?


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Old Jan 11, 13, 8:23 pm   #9
 
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Everytime I've flow LIH -> LAX we've flown from the second to last gate on the far right of the photo. Don't forget to get you checked bags screened by USDA before you check them in HNL and expect to have your hand lugage screened by USDA in LIH just before you enter the mainland gate area. As wil2288 says it can't take more than 5 minutes to walk the entire length of the airport.
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Old Jan 11, 13, 9:37 pm   #10
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If AA sold the flight, I'd be surprised if they'd sell something that didn't meet MCT.

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AA ticketed DFW-IAH-LHR for me last yr and I was denied at check-in due to MCT violation of 5 minutes. Had to have BA open a seat on the later flight, creating a 5+ hour layover. Got to IAH and asked GA about it. She called down and asked them to pick my bags out and call her back. They found them and she said I could go on original flight
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Old Jan 12, 13, 5:00 am   #11
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AA ticketed DFW-IAH-LHR for me last yr and I was denied at check-in due to MCT violation of 5 minutes.
Are you sure that wasn't legal when ticketed, and then suffered a schedule change on a segment? The MCT check has been automated for decades.

The OP shouldn't worry about his return. If HA accepts the bag, it's AA's problem to deliver it (in the LAX area). But I certainly wouldn't put any car keys needed to drive home in a checked bag on that routing...

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Old Jan 12, 13, 9:10 am   #12
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OP, what exactly do you find to be crazy about this itinerary? Is this a quick turnaround MR?
Some people appear to think that it is cool to be labeled "crazy", so they stretch names a little bit to satisfy their egos
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Old Jan 12, 13, 1:43 pm   #13
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Why do you say that? If it is a legal connection, it is based on logistics that say that the bags can be transferred. Do you have some data to support the converse, or is this just unfounded speculation?

But, yes, carry-on anyway. It's just easier

Cheers.
In the great movie Grumpy Old Men, I believe it was Walter Matthau (may he rest in peace) who said, "you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first."

It may very well be a legal connection, but I would expect this group (of any) to be in touch with reality. Most airplanes board 30 minutes before scheduled departure time, so for the OP, his connecting flight will be *boarding* as his plane docks (not completely deplaned, *docks*) at the gate.

Anything further back than First Class and a few forward rows of Economy will definitely tag on some extra time.

And this is assuming no delay whatsoever.

As for the bags, who knows where his will be in the compartment. And I hate to break the news, but the baggage handlers have no clue which is his, nor would the baggage handlers at the outbound station store his bag near the front of the hold given his special circumstance. The bags come off, they get scanned, and sorted.

Nobody will be meeting the OP's luggage and then running it over to the connecting flight.

If this were Lufthansa or All Nippon where procedures are followed exactly, I'd maybe think otherwise.

Besides, I'm quite confident MCTs are about getting passengers from place to place. As for luggage, if it misconnects, you just throw it on the next flight and give the passenger a $100 credit towards another flight, which they will probably never even use. NBD.
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Old Jan 12, 13, 2:33 pm   #14
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Some people appear to think that it is cool to be labeled "crazy", so they stretch names a little bit to satisfy their egos
+1. If the OP thinks this itinerary is crazy, he/she needs to spend some more time here.
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Old Jan 12, 13, 10:31 pm   #15
 
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If AA sold the flight, I'd be surprised if they'd sell something that didn't meet MCT.

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Depends. if the OP did a multi-city booking you can force a set of flights that don't meet MCT. Happened to me last year and AA called about a month before the flight to tell me about it and change my flights.
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