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Old Nov 24, 12, 10:00 am   #1
 
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Upgrade chances SFO-JFK

Status matched UA UA 1k-EXP
Traveling this week sfo-jfk.
What fare bucket do the upgrades clear into?
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Old Nov 24, 12, 10:31 am   #2
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UDU clear into X on two-class (763) and R on three-class (762). X is not visible via any channels, so no point in looking for it.

Miles/certs clear into A on two-class and C on three-class, and A and C are visible via EF and other sources.
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Old Nov 24, 12, 11:54 am   #3
 
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There's a FAQ sticky at the top of the AA forum (where it says "Please check here first") with a wealth of AA information.

You would've been able to find the answer to your question regarding fare buckets there, as well as find the consolidated thread on upgrade chances.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html
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Old Nov 24, 12, 2:24 pm   #4
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Miles/certs clear into A on two-class and C on three-class, and A and C are visible via EF and other sources.
To clarify: upgrades into business using instruments or miles book into C, whether on two-class or three-class flights. Upgrades into first book into A, whether on two-class or three-class flights.
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Old Nov 24, 12, 2:42 pm   #5
 
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To the OP: I am Plat on AA and travel frequently between LAX and JFK. AA almost never shows upgrade availability on these flights and rarely upgrades anyone until the day of the flight.

I'd say I get upgraded about 50% of the time at the airport. I don't know whether or not the same holds true for SFO, but AA clearly holds the business and first class seats between LAX and JFK for paying customers until the last minute.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 9:21 am   #6
 
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To the OP: I am Plat on AA and travel frequently between LAX and JFK. AA almost never shows upgrade availability on these flights and rarely upgrades anyone until the day of the flight.

I'd say I get upgraded about 50% of the time at the airport. I don't know whether or not the same holds true for SFO, but AA clearly holds the business and first class seats between LAX and JFK for paying customers until the last minute.
I almost always use miles+copay or BusinessExtrAA certs to upgrade in advance on SFO<>JFK flights, unless I'm already using an eVIP on an international trip. It's usually difficult to score upgrades as a freebie on this route.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 9:33 am   #7
 
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I had two friends go on 16 yesterday from sfo-jfk. Neither one cleared. May be a tough route. Also, I noticed that first only had 8 seats instead of 10. Looking at seat maps, there are a few 8 seat first planes around. Maybe its the same plane with inoperable seats??
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Old Nov 25, 12, 9:45 am   #8
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I had two friends go on 16 yesterday from sfo-jfk. Neither one cleared. May be a tough route. Also, I noticed that first only had 8 seats instead of 10. Looking at seat maps, there are a few 8 seat first planes around. Maybe its the same plane with inoperable seats??
Can you provide examples of flights with only 8 F seats?
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Old Nov 25, 12, 10:03 am   #9
 
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Can you provide examples of flights with only 8 F seats?
If you can look at flight 16 yesterday from sfo-jfk and the flight coming to sfo, you would have seen only 8 seats being sold. Prob inoperable seats. There are physically 10 there, but only 8 avail for use. Either blocked for someone or inop.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 10:05 am   #10
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If you can look at flight 16 yesterday from sfo-jfk and the flight coming to sfo, you would have seen only 8 seats being sold. Prob inoperable seats. There are physically 10 there, but only 8 avail for use. Either blocked for someone or inop.
Given we can't see historical seat maps, do you have any examples of future flights in which there are only 8 seats?
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Old Nov 25, 12, 10:13 am   #11
 
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Given we can't see historical seat maps, do you have any examples of future flights in which there are only 8 seats?
Ill look for them when I have some time.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 10:55 am   #12
 
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Like UA, upgrading AA out of SFO is very difficult. For a chance, purchase your tickets in as advance as possible and avoid peak business hours, which are Sunday evenings, Monday mornings, Thursdays and Fridays.

AA did a similar seasonal adjustment as they did last year by cutting down the SFO-JFK frequency from 5 to 4. Because people are rebooked, it means more competition for upgrades.

In the spring, AA will be bringing back its 5th JFK frequency and 11th DFW frequency, so it should be better then.
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Old Nov 25, 12, 4:29 pm   #13
 
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Given we can't see historical seat maps, do you have any examples of future flights in which there are only 8 seats?
Had a friend send me this.

Flight: 16 Date: 24NOV SFO-JFK Gate: 56A Departs: 1240PM

First Business Coach
Total Seats 8 30 128
Confirmed Passengers 5 30 120
Seats Assigned 8 30 128
Seats Unassigned 0 0 0
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Old Nov 27, 12, 9:44 am   #14
 
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Just watching flt #16 today, they cleared 6 upgrades to BC at the 5 hour mark.
I am on Flt#20.
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Old Nov 27, 12, 9:49 am   #15
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Just watching flt #16 today, they cleared 6 upgrades to BC at the 5 hour mark.
I am on Flt#20.
It doesn't matter what they did on AA16 today. On your flight, there's only one J seat left. So unless you've already been upgraded, you had better hope that you're on the top of the list, or that some passengers get stuck in traffic!
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