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oneworld / AA Explorer award with AA Miles (discuss, questions) [ENDED 8 APR 2014]
N.B. new oneworld/AA Explorer awards are no longer available as of the end of the day on April 7th, 2014.
Existing awards will be honored.
This thread is ONLY to inquire or add about existing oneworld Explorer awards; to comment on the loss of this booking option, please follow the discussion on:
Oneworld Explorer Awards Eliminated -- Effective Immediately [8 Apr 2014]
See the first post, below, for the rules that prevailed through 7 April 2014 and apply to those who booked Explorer awards prior to the end of these useful award tickets.
oneworld / AA Explorer award with AA Miles (discuss, questions) [ENDED 8 APR 2014]
#1141
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
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Just check award space on aa.com. Click on the icon for SAAver (either Coach, Business/First, or First). Available award flights will then be displayed.
Originally Posted by aznrayne
What's the best way to determine if a seat is SAAver space or not? Are these the non-"Premium" seats that are shown on Expert Flyer?
#1142
In memoriam
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP, DL PLT, UA 1P, SPG Gold
Posts: 415
For Business class awards you pretty much can select any seat but some airlines will not let you select a seat until closer to the actual flight date.
#1143
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: CLT
Programs: AA ExPlat, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,551
Here is what they quoted me for
MCO - MIA - LIM (all AA) Stopover
LIM - SCL (on LA) Stopover
SCL - MDZ (on LA) Stopover
MDZ - SCL - MIA (on LA) Stopover [although they just drive from MIA to Home near Orlando]
NAS - PLS (on BA) Stopover [and I am buying for them a $80 MCO - NAS ticket on Air Bahamas]
PLS - MIA - MCO (on AA)
MCO - MIA - LIM (all AA) Stopover
LIM - SCL (on LA) Stopover
SCL - MDZ (on LA) Stopover
MDZ - SCL - MIA (on LA) Stopover [although they just drive from MIA to Home near Orlando]
NAS - PLS (on BA) Stopover [and I am buying for them a $80 MCO - NAS ticket on Air Bahamas]
PLS - MIA - MCO (on AA)
Well something strange happened. In March, partner carrier LAN had a schedule change that impacted a couple of their flights. The flight times only changed a little bit. For my father-in-law’s ticket, everything was normal with the new flights noted. However, my mother-in-law’s ticket fell apart. Unbeknownst to me, American had forgotten to debit my AAdvantage account for the miles required nor charge my credit card for the taxes and fees for her award ticket. Thus when the schedule change occurred, none of the LAN segments came back as confirmed. Even though I had e-mails from American showing this itinerary as ticketed. And American did not communicate this drop of segments to me nor her. I found out by randomly checking her record locator on their site this weekend. And this was totally independent of American’s massive system failure yesterday.
I called American to try to get her original segments back. The first agent said points were never deducted for this ticket and that there was nothing they could do. If LAN did not have award availability for these seats, then she would have to pick a different date or time to fly. This was obviously unacceptable considering I had ticketing confirmation from American, and her husband was flying at these already set dates and times.
I called American to try to get her original segments back. The first agent said points were never deducted for this ticket and that there was nothing they could do. If LAN did not have award availability for these seats, then she would have to pick a different date or time to fly. This was obviously unacceptable considering I had ticketing confirmation from American, and her husband was flying at these already set dates and times.
Has anyone seen something like this happen before and seen a resolution like this?
#1144
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,861
Moral of this story: make sure you are actually ticketed, with a ticket number.
#1146
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,861
As far as calculated distances, here is what the oneworld map (http://www.oneworld.com/flights/where-we-fly/) gives,
LAX-HNL AA 2,553mi
HNL-KIX JAL/AA 4,106mi
KIX-PVG JAL 831mi
PVG-HKG Cathay 773mi
HKG-PEN Cathay/Malaysia 1,488mi
PEN-KUL Malaysia 189mi
KUL-SIN Malaysia 196mi
SIN-BKK Cathay 889mi
BKK-NRT-BOS JAL/AA 9,569mi
BOS-NRT JAL 6,700mi
NRT-JFK JAL 6,737mi
JFK-AMM AA/Jordanian 5,732mi
AMM-IST Jordanian 745mi
IST-AMM-ORD AA/Jordanian 6,970mi
= 47,478mi
Any hiccups/suggestions?
LAX-HNL AA 2,553mi
HNL-KIX JAL/AA 4,106mi
KIX-PVG JAL 831mi
PVG-HKG Cathay 773mi
HKG-PEN Cathay/Malaysia 1,488mi
PEN-KUL Malaysia 189mi
KUL-SIN Malaysia 196mi
SIN-BKK Cathay 889mi
BKK-NRT-BOS JAL/AA 9,569mi
BOS-NRT JAL 6,700mi
NRT-JFK JAL 6,737mi
JFK-AMM AA/Jordanian 5,732mi
AMM-IST Jordanian 745mi
IST-AMM-ORD AA/Jordanian 6,970mi
= 47,478mi
Any hiccups/suggestions?
(1) HNL -> KIX would have to be on JL.
(2) PVG -> HKG could be on either CX or KA.
(3) HKG -> PEN would have to be on CX.
(4) BKK -> NRT -> BOS -> NRT would have to be on JL.
(5) JFK -> AMM would have to be on RJ.
(6) IST -> AMM -> ORD would have to be on RJ.
If you have trouble with HNL -> KIX availability, you could consider HND or NGO.
Last edited by Austinrunner; Apr 25, 2013 at 12:09 am
#1147
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 21
You cannot book codeshares on your itinerary. So:
(1) HNL -> KIX would have to be on JL.
(2) PVG -> HKG could be on either CX or KA.
(3) HKG -> PEN would have to be on CX.
(4) BKK -> NRT -> BOS -> NRT would have to be on JL.
(5) JFK -> AMM would have to be on RJ.
(6) AMM -> ORD would have to be on RJ.
If you have trouble with HNL -> KIX availability, you could consider HND or NGO.
(1) HNL -> KIX would have to be on JL.
(2) PVG -> HKG could be on either CX or KA.
(3) HKG -> PEN would have to be on CX.
(4) BKK -> NRT -> BOS -> NRT would have to be on JL.
(5) JFK -> AMM would have to be on RJ.
(6) AMM -> ORD would have to be on RJ.
If you have trouble with HNL -> KIX availability, you could consider HND or NGO.
However, what I meant by JAL/AA was that JL and AA both fly that route, so there would be an option of booking either airline, if availability was limited on one of them.
#1148
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Posts: 4,861
But, for example, AA does not fly HNL -> KIX on its own metal. JL does. Therefore, you could not book the AA flight number (if any) for that route. You would have to book the JL flight number. If the JL flight number is not available, then you have to choose another date or a different route.
#1149
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
It pays to understand airlines route maps - it would tell you which routes are served by code-share. HNL-KIX definitely is JL only.
Essentially, all your "/AA" routes, the AA flights are all code-share flights. AA does not fly those routes. Go to AA website and check the route map to see for yourself.
#1150
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
You cannot book codeshares on your itinerary. So:
(1) HNL -> KIX would have to be on JL.
(2) PVG -> HKG could be on either CX or KA.
(3) HKG -> PEN would have to be on CX.
(4) BKK -> NRT -> BOS -> NRT would have to be on JL.
(5) JFK -> AMM would have to be on RJ.
(6) AMM -> ORD would have to be on RJ.
If you have trouble with HNL -> KIX availability, you could consider HND or NGO.
(1) HNL -> KIX would have to be on JL.
(2) PVG -> HKG could be on either CX or KA.
(3) HKG -> PEN would have to be on CX.
(4) BKK -> NRT -> BOS -> NRT would have to be on JL.
(5) JFK -> AMM would have to be on RJ.
(6) AMM -> ORD would have to be on RJ.
If you have trouble with HNL -> KIX availability, you could consider HND or NGO.
#1151
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 21
Oh thanks for the catch. I looked at the oneworld interactive world map again and I don't know why I noted it as an AA flight. I can clearly see the JL one.
You guys knew that just off the top of your head??
You guys knew that just off the top of your head??
#1152
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,861
Some routes I know by heart (like the HNL - Japan flights). Others, I research, using Airline Route Mapper among other resources.
#1154
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,297
LGA-DFW, AA (Connection)
DFW-LAX, AA (Stopover)
LAX-HKG, CX (Connection)
HKG-KUL, CX (Connection)
KUL-CMB, MH (Stopover)
CMB-BKK, CX (Stopover)
BKK-HKG, CX (Connection)
HKG-PEK, CX (Stopover)
PEK-NRT, JL (Connection)
NRT-LAX, JL (Connection)
LAX-LAS, AA (Destination)
Currently LAX-HKG-KUL only have 5 hours connection. Is it possible for me to convert into stopover (or longer connections like 7 hours). Also, if I pay change fee, is it possible to do it?
DFW-LAX, AA (Stopover)
LAX-HKG, CX (Connection)
HKG-KUL, CX (Connection)
KUL-CMB, MH (Stopover)
CMB-BKK, CX (Stopover)
BKK-HKG, CX (Connection)
HKG-PEK, CX (Stopover)
PEK-NRT, JL (Connection)
NRT-LAX, JL (Connection)
LAX-LAS, AA (Destination)
Currently LAX-HKG-KUL only have 5 hours connection. Is it possible for me to convert into stopover (or longer connections like 7 hours). Also, if I pay change fee, is it possible to do it?
#1155
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 586
I don't see why not, you don't have an stopover in HKG so as long as there is availability on another flight you want, you should be able to change it. I don't believe you have to pay a change fee either as you are just changing time and possibly the date of the flight.