armagebedar

http://www.ana.co.jp/group/en/pr/201606/20160629.html

As was previously reported, ANA will begin flying HND-JFK and HND-ORD from October 30, 2016 with 777-300ER aircraft (4-class). The timings are as follows:

NH110 HND-JFK Dep 10:20 Arr 09:00
NH109 JFK-HND Dep 16:55 Arr 21:10 +1

NH112 HND-ORD Dep 10:50 Arr 07:40
NH111 ORD-HND Dep 16:15 Arr 20:30 +1

NH10. NH103, NH12, and NH113 will be suspended on the same day.

ANA will also change the aircraft used on the HND-HNL and HND-LAX routes from October 30:

NH186 HND-HNL Dep 21:55 Arr 10:05
NH185 HNL-HND Dep 13:10 Arr 17:25 +1
Aircraft: short-haul 788

NH106 HND-LAX Dep 22:55 Arr 15:50
NH105 LAX-HND Dep 00:05 Arr 05:05 +1
Aircraft: 777-300ER (4-class)

ANA wil also launch HND-KUL on October 30 with a short-haul 788; timings are as follows:

NH885 HND-KUL Dep 00:05 Arr 06:35
NH886 KUL-HND Dep 14:15 Arr 22:05

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Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't NH had the 77W on HND-LAX since last August/September or so? I had a 77W on HND-LAX last August (back when it was NH1006) and my booking for HND-LAX this August has been showing 77W since I booked in March. Flightaware/FR24 both show 77Ws operating NH105/6 now as well.

Also interesting that HND-LAX is staying as a night flight (albeit with a slightly earlier departure) — didn't NH get 3 day slots and 1 night slot?

5khours

Armage, Thanks for the new info. Any idea when the next round of schedule announcements will be.

United5459

I thought the same, Both NH5/6, NH105/106 77W 4 class 777-300??

FireEmblemPride

I'm pleased NH is keeping LAX in the evening. I personally prefer that schedule over the traditional daytime flights between the US and Japan. It also allows NH to offer a different timing compared to DL and AA.

Did the US and Japan amend any of the rules regarding nighttime slot departures, such as having to depart after midnight?

armagebedar

I thought so as well, but ANA listed it as having an aircraft change. Perhaps this formalizes what they've been doing since last year? IIRC they did not announce the upgauge.

The LAX flight now departs at 22:55, meaning it counts as a "day" departure (the nighttime slots are 23:00-04:59). You'll notice the arrival times at HND have been likewise adjusted so that they are 05:00 or later.

JALPak

HNL is the 3rd "day" flight not LAX

United5459

Can we ask where you found the info on equipment change for the HND-LAX?

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Actually they did:

It's from the NH press release linked in the first post.

benjahman

I like this. Just checked my reservation for Feb 2017 and it has updated to JFK-HND!

Edit: This is my new itinerary courtesy of UA. Any idea why it shows wait listed by my seat selection?

joejones

Seems like NH104 (NRT-JFK) will have to spend the night at JFK unless they move the schedule up to something like a 2 pm departure.

benjahman

Just a follow up to the above, was able to call UA and they cleared up the wait list issue. Showing all confirmed on ANA website as well.

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On the UA app whenever there's a schedule change it'll show as waitlisted until you go online and acknowledge the change.

The schedules posted in the press release are actually for after DST ends on Nov. 6; before DST ends these are the times for TYO-JFK (with NH109 departing an hour "later" thus plenty of time for a turn and no need for an overnight):

NH110 HND-JFK 1020 1000
NH9 JFK-NRT 1215 1525+1
NH10* NRT-JFK 1640 1610
NH109 JFK-HND 1755 2110+1
*they seem to have renumbered NH104 to make the flight numbers line up

And when the US goes back to EST NRT-JFK arrives an hour "earlier" so everything lines up as well:
NH110 HND-JFK 1020 0900
NH9 JFK-NRT 1115 1525+1
NH10 NRT-JFK 1640 1510
NH109 JFK-HND 1655 2110+1

Presumably this is the same as for TYO-ORD.

Plasticus

I am booked on NH NRT to ORD in January 2017. Amadeus already shows the change to HND ORD. Personally happy with the change.

Do these changes require an etix reissue? Amadeus still displaying old etix.

wtcmor

Hi are the HND flights replacing the NRT flights to ORD or are they additional flights?