Alitalia to sell SH business?
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Alitalia to sell SH business?
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Thanks for sharing this - the rumour was also reported from Corriere della Sera days ago.
It is very unlikely that any solution going forward will get rid of the cancer which has always been affecting Alitalia -
Robust influence from the above mentioned factors has always prevented any concrete plan of development (and many have tried so far, including AF a decade ago, with a plan which was eventually stopped by good-old Silvio).
Italy is amongst the most important (if not the most important) European markets for all the big players (a swift look at the number of daily services operated by LH, BA, AF, KL and the likes from major and even minor Italian airports is enough to form an idea) and, shamefully, AZ has not been able to make the most of it (apart from a short period of time when MXP was their main hub and they had over 200 aircraft operating a more than decent network).
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It is very unlikely that any solution going forward will get rid of the cancer which has always been affecting Alitalia -
- The political complexity (alias involvement) behind the airline;
- The power of the trade unions, which historically rests on two solid pillars being strong membership and significant links to political parties.
Robust influence from the above mentioned factors has always prevented any concrete plan of development (and many have tried so far, including AF a decade ago, with a plan which was eventually stopped by good-old Silvio).
Italy is amongst the most important (if not the most important) European markets for all the big players (a swift look at the number of daily services operated by LH, BA, AF, KL and the likes from major and even minor Italian airports is enough to form an idea) and, shamefully, AZ has not been able to make the most of it (apart from a short period of time when MXP was their main hub and they had over 200 aircraft operating a more than decent network).
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Forgive me, but I thought it was well known that the UK is, and always has been, by far the "biggest" aviation market in Europe
Of course, Brexit could dent the UK's figures quite considerably as it could suddenly find itself scrambling to restore access to certain markets that it will no longer have access to via air treaties signed by the EU.
The latest figures I could find, from 2013, show that Italy is in 5th place in the EU (6th/7th in Europe if we were to include Turkey and/or Russia!) with slightly more than half the number of air passengers that the UK has.
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That's quite a bold claim to make!
Forgive me, but I thought it was well known that the UK is, and always has been, by far the "biggest" aviation market in the EU (6th/7th in Europe if we were to include Turkey and/or Russia!)
The latest figures I could find, from 2013, show that Italy is in 5th place with a little more than half the air passengers that the UK has.
Forgive me, but I thought it was well known that the UK is, and always has been, by far the "biggest" aviation market in the EU (6th/7th in Europe if we were to include Turkey and/or Russia!)
The latest figures I could find, from 2013, show that Italy is in 5th place with a little more than half the air passengers that the UK has.
http://www.anna.aero/2016/11/16/bigg...1617-revealed/
But I think I saw a better table somewhere else (IATA website, possibly), showing the top 10 in Europe (amongst those, DE-IT, UK-IT, FR-IT).
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The US*, Germany and France would all probably be bigger markets for IAG than Italy.
The US*, UK, Spain and France would all probably be bigger markets for LH than Italy.
The US*, UK, Spain and Germany would all probably be bigger markets for AFKL than Italy.
*I know the US is not in Europe, but I don't see why, when discussing global airlines, we need to limit ourselves to discussion of European countries.
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That seems a rather contrived qualifier, too.
The US*, Germany and France would all probably be bigger markets for IAG than Italy.
The US*, UK, Spain and France would all probably be bigger markets for LH than Italy.
The US*, UK, Spain and Germany would all probably be bigger markets for AFKL than Italy.
*I know the US is not in Europe, but I don't see why, when discussing global airlines, we need to limit ourselves to discussion of European countries.
The US*, Germany and France would all probably be bigger markets for IAG than Italy.
The US*, UK, Spain and France would all probably be bigger markets for LH than Italy.
The US*, UK, Spain and Germany would all probably be bigger markets for AFKL than Italy.
*I know the US is not in Europe, but I don't see why, when discussing global airlines, we need to limit ourselves to discussion of European countries.
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Additionally, LCC penetration in Italy is above the European average - and above 50% - and this can be seen as an indicator of the low margins and high price sensitivity of the market. It's not an easy place to operate as a high-cost carrier
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Some other statistics concerning LH at FRA, where Italy is indeed the 3rd market in terms of number of seats after Germany and the US.
http://www.anna.aero/2015/09/29/luft...rankfurt-base/
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http://www.anna.aero/2015/09/29/luft...rankfurt-base/
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And that's BA -
LGW
http://www.anna.aero/2016/02/16/brit...-50-once-more/
LHR (ASK)
http://www.anna.aero/2014/03/13/brit...rica-and-asia/
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LGW
http://www.anna.aero/2016/02/16/brit...-50-once-more/
LHR (ASK)
http://www.anna.aero/2014/03/13/brit...rica-and-asia/
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Etihad's Chief Executive and Chief Financial Officer have today resigned. They will be leaving by the second half of the year.
It is almost certain that they were "encouraged" to leave as a result of the failures surrounding the airline investments - notably Alitalia and airberlin.
There could be quite a lot of blowback for Alitalia from all of this....
It is almost certain that they were "encouraged" to leave as a result of the failures surrounding the airline investments - notably Alitalia and airberlin.
There could be quite a lot of blowback for Alitalia from all of this....
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Originally Posted by Reuters
]Ryanair (RYA.I) is in talks about providing connecting flights to AlItalia's long-haul services and has raised objections with German authorities about a Lufthansa-Air Berlin tie-up, as it tries to ease its expansion in continental Europe.
But it is unlikely to look to acquisitions to fuel that growth due to inefficiencies at rivals and the fact most have Airbus (AIR.PA) fleets, rather than Boeing (BA.N) planes as used by Ryanair, CEO Michael O'Leary told Reuters in an interview.
Ryanair is currently in talks with AlItalia about providing feeder flights to its long-haul hubs in a deal that could help the Italian flag carrier curb losses on short-haul flights.
"We can help them by offering them cheap feed, low-cost feed into their hubs ... but that means taking out aircraft, people, and that's very difficult politically in Italy," O'Leary said. "We are still talking to them."
But it is unlikely to look to acquisitions to fuel that growth due to inefficiencies at rivals and the fact most have Airbus (AIR.PA) fleets, rather than Boeing (BA.N) planes as used by Ryanair, CEO Michael O'Leary told Reuters in an interview.
Ryanair is currently in talks with AlItalia about providing feeder flights to its long-haul hubs in a deal that could help the Italian flag carrier curb losses on short-haul flights.
"We can help them by offering them cheap feed, low-cost feed into their hubs ... but that means taking out aircraft, people, and that's very difficult politically in Italy," O'Leary said. "We are still talking to them."