New F Seats

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https://www.dallasnews.com/business/......-seats-made
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Quote: Did not see this posted anywhere. Feel free to delete if its already been posted.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/......-seats-made
Interesting article. Was not worth having to go into private browsing mode as they're blocking access to users utilzing Ad-Blocker. Innovate or die.
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Thanks for sharing. Strange that the pics don't show the footrest?

Also the article states that when installed they will have an extra 5" of legroom from current configuration. I'm assuming that is only the case for those planes that have not already seen the increased pitch in F?
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Quote: Thanks for sharing. Strange that the pics don't show the footrest?

Also the article states that when installed they will have an extra 5" of legroom from current configuration. I'm assuming that is only the case for those planes that have not already seen the increased pitch in F?
I didn't even make it that far, I got hit with a bunch of ads and full screen video, just closed the window....
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Notice how the mount or divider UNDER the seat is not evenly spaced! One seat has the floor mount on the side, while the other seat has the floor mount nearly in the middle. This means, for people trying to put their carryon bag under the seat in front of them, that one person will have to jam it into the "center" space that is supposed to be shared with the other passenger in your row.

https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1505254...&q=60&fit=clip
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Quote: Notice how the mount or divider UNDER the seat is not evenly spaced! One seat has the floor mount on the side, while the other seat has the floor mount nearly in the middle. This means, for people trying to put their carryon bag under the seat in front of them, that one person will have to jam it into the "center" space that is supposed to be shared with the other passenger in your row.

https://dallasnews.imgix.net/1505254...&q=60&fit=clip
It looks just like the mounting track is just the same as it currently is on those planes. I can't imagine they'd change it, which would be a lot more work than just replacing the seats.
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Quote: Thanks for sharing. Strange that the pics don't show the footrest?

Also the article states that when installed they will have an extra 5" of legroom from current configuration. I'm assuming that is only the case for those planes that have not already seen the increased pitch in F?
Yeah, pitch is 41" as I understand, so same as the reconfigured planes currently have. Legroom might be slightly better if the new seatback is thinner. Per the article, seat will not have a legrest, but just a fold-out footrest. Probably just a metal bar that folds down from the back of the seat in front of you. Amtrak has this style of footrest on some of the seats on their trains. I find them pretty useless.
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Quote: Yeah, pitch is 41" as I understand, so same as the reconfigured planes currently have. Legroom might be slightly better if the new seatback is thinner. Per the article, seat will not have a legrest, but just a fold-out footrest. Probably just a metal bar that folds down from the back of the seat in front of you. Amtrak has this style of footrest on some of the seats on their trains. I find them pretty useless.
Looks like they don't have the extra little tray that pulls out from the center, either. We like having lots of horizontal space, and will miss that little tray.
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Quote: Looks like they don't have the extra little tray that pulls out from the center, either. We like having lots of horizontal space, and will miss that little tray.
They talked about drink holders...
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Quote: They talked about drink holders...
You mean as shown in the picture? (I didn't read the article based on what someone else said about the ads, other crap, etc) - what do those drink holders have to do with the EXTRA surface of the little tray? Not everyone uses their space in the same way - drink holders are useless to us, an extra surface is very useful.
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"When they’re installed on Alaska’s aircraft starting in late 2018".....with a complete retro-fit a few years later

Alaska gives "snails pace" a whole new meaning.
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Quote: Yeah, pitch is 41" as I understand, so same as the reconfigured planes currently have. Legroom might be slightly better if the new seatback is thinner. Per the article, seat will not have a legrest, but just a fold-out footrest. Probably just a metal bar that folds down from the back of the seat in front of you. Amtrak has this style of footrest on some of the seats on their trains. I find them pretty useless.
Agreed. I was really looking forward to a leg rest. These new seats look pretty underwhelming.
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Quote: drink holders are useless to us, an extra surface is very useful.
Agreed
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Quote: Agreed. I was really looking forward to a leg rest. These new seats look pretty underwhelming.
I dread them. They always seem designed for shorter individuals, and impact leg room negatively.
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Quote: I dread them. They always seem designed for shorter individuals, and impact leg room negatively.
Totally not empty quoting this.
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