Impressed with AS, thinking of going for status - questions
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,561
Impressed with AS, thinking of going for status - questions
PDX based
Recent flights on AS very nice. Especially liked my E175 PDX-SLC Return which was quiet, bright, smooth, nice seats. Paid upgrade to F on return and had a nice little cheese plate.
Anyway, I may be able to get 25k miles on AS and partners in a calendar year and achieve MVP.
- would expect the 50% bonus miles to be handy.
- I can often find award travel at the base levels for what I'm looking for.
- I like the new lower price award options for short hops
- I like AS service
- I have priority pass that used to get me into AS BRs but understand that is going away?
- I would sign up for the AS credit card for the companion pass
- obviously PDX-based, most travel to SLC, DFW, HNL, OGG
questions
- I'm used to flying DL to Europe and Asia. What's the comparison on BA, Iberia, and other AS partners?
Any other big picture thoughts?
Honestly if I could be assured a seat on an E175 every flight I'd never fly another airline. So nice.
Recent flights on AS very nice. Especially liked my E175 PDX-SLC Return which was quiet, bright, smooth, nice seats. Paid upgrade to F on return and had a nice little cheese plate.
Anyway, I may be able to get 25k miles on AS and partners in a calendar year and achieve MVP.
- would expect the 50% bonus miles to be handy.
- I can often find award travel at the base levels for what I'm looking for.
- I like the new lower price award options for short hops
- I like AS service
- I have priority pass that used to get me into AS BRs but understand that is going away?
- I would sign up for the AS credit card for the companion pass
- obviously PDX-based, most travel to SLC, DFW, HNL, OGG
questions
- I'm used to flying DL to Europe and Asia. What's the comparison on BA, Iberia, and other AS partners?
Any other big picture thoughts?
Honestly if I could be assured a seat on an E175 every flight I'd never fly another airline. So nice.
#2
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SEA
Programs: Hilton/Marriott Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 2,036
As a PDX-based MVP who flies exclusively for leisure (and thus competes less with the 75K road warriors), I'm 5/5 on complimentary upgrades this year. So you may end up in first class more often than you'd expect for a bottom-tier elite.
And while DFW is normally a hard route for upgrades from what I've heard, AS is launching PDX-DAL on the Embraer. And since they're 76-seat planes with as many F seats as the -700s and -800s, they're very easy to score upgrades on, as you've experienced.
#3
Neil
#4
Moderator: American AAdvantage & Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: PHX
Programs: American ExPlat; Marriott/SPG Lifetime Plat; Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 8,116
Don't forget AA. It's not as extensive of network to Asia, and you'd have to go south to LAX, but AA's new J product is solid. To Europe you have a lot of AA options.
#7
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SFO
Programs: BART Platinum, AA Plat Pro
Posts: 1,158
Depends on the booking code. For non-refundable economy tickets, generally not. For premium fare tickets, you often earn more than 100% miles. You need to look at the individual partner pages, as it varies by partner (e.g. https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...-airlines.aspx).
#8
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: SEA
Programs: AS MVPG
Posts: 153
If you want to do it all in one fell swoop, you could position to YVR and do the YVR-JNB run on Cathay PE.
YVR-HKG-JNB-HKG-YVR = 26,047 miles. PE on Cathay earns a 110% on AS, so 26047*1.1 = 28651.7.
https://goo.gl/flights/UWgH
YVR-HKG-JNB-HKG-YVR = 26,047 miles. PE on Cathay earns a 110% on AS, so 26047*1.1 = 28651.7.
https://goo.gl/flights/UWgH
#9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,387
I don't think any airline status is worth going much out of your way to acquire (certainly not to JNB ), given that these days discount F fares are pretty cheap if you want them.
If your natural travel would get you close, maybe there's a case for it. If you like doing weekend cross-country jaunts or flying some distance for a vacation (and JNB with a HKG stopover sounds fun), sure. But all told, airlines mostly compete on price and schedule these days, and that's probably where your loyalty should lie; your wallet and time.
If your natural travel would get you close, maybe there's a case for it. If you like doing weekend cross-country jaunts or flying some distance for a vacation (and JNB with a HKG stopover sounds fun), sure. But all told, airlines mostly compete on price and schedule these days, and that's probably where your loyalty should lie; your wallet and time.
#10
Join Date: May 2017
Location: SEA
Posts: 355
If you're PDX-based but flying across the ocean, I would stick with Delta. From PDX to the main hubs in Europe (LHR, AMS, CDG, FRA), two of them are Delta flights, and the third is Condor. Condor is an Alaska partner, but Delta has a nicer business class. And for flying to the hubs in east-Asia (HND, NRT, ICN, HKG), Delta is the only non-stop, to NRT.
As for the comfort, Delta One isn't bad. AA's new 777-300ER is better, as is CX. BA's seats aren't as comfortable, but has better service. QF has a mix of better and worse, although most of their flights are the old crappy seats. The service is much better though. KE and JL have very private almost mini-suites, although they are very short beds, and in addition JL's flights out of YVR are old and crappy seats.
I like Alaska, and have been flying them since the mid-80s. For a PDX-based international traveller though, I personally wouldn't recommend them. I like the Alaska partners, but needing to connect through SEA/YVR/SFO/LAX would get old for more than a few trips a year.
#11
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 65
I'm in the same boat - thinking of switching from American.
My question is that, when I look on AS' website for award redemption outside the US (i.e. using partners), mostly everything I see is coach. Even partner business/first selections are mixed cabin, where AS flights are first and all partners are coach.
Are international business/first award flights on partners next to zero in availability, or is it just the website not pulling the availability (AA.com is notorious for it's subpar experience with this)?
I'm in SEA.
My question is that, when I look on AS' website for award redemption outside the US (i.e. using partners), mostly everything I see is coach. Even partner business/first selections are mixed cabin, where AS flights are first and all partners are coach.
Are international business/first award flights on partners next to zero in availability, or is it just the website not pulling the availability (AA.com is notorious for it's subpar experience with this)?
I'm in SEA.
#12
Join Date: May 2017
Location: SEA
Posts: 355
For non-BA partners, you need to either book the flights 330 days in advance, or 5-15 days in advance. If I look at this upcoming Monday for instance, there are tons of flights in all classes from Seattle to HND/NRT. But if you look further out, all the availability drops.
What I do is book Y for the dates I want, and then change it to J or F once those seats become available. This only works if you have status though, otherwise they charge something ridiculous like $125 to change it.
What I do is book Y for the dates I want, and then change it to J or F once those seats become available. This only works if you have status though, otherwise they charge something ridiculous like $125 to change it.
#13
Original Poster
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,561
Depends on the booking code. For non-refundable economy tickets, generally not. For premium fare tickets, you often earn more than 100% miles. You need to look at the individual partner pages, as it varies by partner (e.g. https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...-airlines.aspx).