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Present state(as of 4/30/18)
- AS/VX flights consolidated from T8/T4 to T7 in late 2017
- Terminal 7 under construction
- No TSA Precheck
- Limited restaurant choices
- Lounges:
- Purchased day pass option revoked for Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse in T4
- Alaska Lounge in T7 opened on April 30 2018. Accepts Priority Pass (usual caveats apply, see Priority Pass Denied Entry thread). Will be open 5 AM-10 PM, except 5 AM-5 PM on Saturdays.
- No day pass access to BA lounge
AS (and VX) Moved to T7 at JFK; New Alaska Lounge (April, 2018)
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AS (and VX) Moved to T7 at JFK; New Alaska Lounge (April, 2018)
http://blog.wandr.me/2017/04/consoli...irgin-america/
No official AS linky for the announcement, but I suppose @sbm12 is good for it.
I imagine the VX folks will be miffed at losing the VS clubhouse, and the possibility of no Precheck? Yikes.
Sorry about no lounge in SAN yet, SAN Circle of Doom complainers... looks like JFK has got you there.
No official AS linky for the announcement, but I suppose @sbm12 is good for it.
I imagine the VX folks will be miffed at losing the VS clubhouse, and the possibility of no Precheck? Yikes.
Sorry about no lounge in SAN yet, SAN Circle of Doom complainers... looks like JFK has got you there.
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Official announcement was sent out overnight, it's in the Alaska newsroom:
https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-...minal-7-at-JFK
I wonder if the new lounge will accept PriorityPass...
Neil
https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-...minal-7-at-JFK
I wonder if the new lounge will accept PriorityPass...
Neil
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(1) VX Clubhouse a lot of dough - never used it.
(2) T4 PP lounge has been "acceptable enough" although I think it is on a downhill slide.
(3) I always liked the compactness of T7. Back when UA had a big operation there (almost all of T7 and part of T6), it made for very easy connections, and very quick security-to-gate.
(4) With Precheck and perhaps an airside bus to/from T7, I wouldn't find much downside with this..
(2) T4 PP lounge has been "acceptable enough" although I think it is on a downhill slide.
(3) I always liked the compactness of T7. Back when UA had a big operation there (almost all of T7 and part of T6), it made for very easy connections, and very quick security-to-gate.
(4) With Precheck and perhaps an airside bus to/from T7, I wouldn't find much downside with this..
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Official announcement was sent out overnight, it's in the Alaska newsroom:
https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-...minal-7-at-JFK
I wonder if the new lounge will accept PriorityPass...
Neil
https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-...minal-7-at-JFK
I wonder if the new lounge will accept PriorityPass...
Neil
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JFK Lounge
Lounge option at JFK Terminal 7 seem none, except for BA's First Lounge and Galleries Lounge.
I'm doubting they would welcome AS elites, unless we are connecting to longhaul LHR flights.
2018 AS Lounge opening isn't too far away however.
Jiburi
I'm doubting they would welcome AS elites, unless we are connecting to longhaul LHR flights.
2018 AS Lounge opening isn't too far away however.
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I may be in the minority here, but I am not too elated about this news... Operating out of T8 is far better than T7 with significantly more connectivity through AA than BA/FI could ever offer to AS.
JFK needs to get their priorities together and move forward with completing T8 construction then having all of OW move under one roof before razing T7 to make room for further terminal developments that will maximize space. Same can be said for T2, but DL just got a new T4 wing so they can wait.
JFK needs to get their priorities together and move forward with completing T8 construction then having all of OW move under one roof before razing T7 to make room for further terminal developments that will maximize space. Same can be said for T2, but DL just got a new T4 wing so they can wait.
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Well, that plus the opening given to VX at SFO.
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T8 at JFK is probably the nicest AA intl terminal in the AA system aside from DFW terminal D.
PHL/ORD does not serve all EU destinations that JFK serves on a year round basis. AA's EU route network is weird, PHL serves some unique destinations, JFK serves some unique places and so does ORD. So really, for some destinations you have to connect in JFK assuming a customer wants to keep an itinerary strictly AS/AA.
Bottom line, less connecting options are not good for the customers. T7 is a dump and BA's renovation rendering is disappointing.
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There's a market for feeder legs, and AS will likely take advantage of it.
You have to reclear security on the way back anyway, so the major impact of a terminal switch at JFK is only on the outbound.
You have to reclear security on the way back anyway, so the major impact of a terminal switch at JFK is only on the outbound.
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"Great, that 10 hour layover at JFK on the outbound and overnight layover coming home is JUST what I needed!"- said no business traveler ever.
The timing for FI connections sucks too (except for maybe SFO/JFK). For AA/BA there are two LHR flights where you have a reasonable connection on a redeye. Everything else is stupid.
Yeah, I guess AS could connect people SFO/LAX-JFK-LHR... except, um, isn't there nonstop service on BA (and in the case of LAX, AA too)?
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Depending upon what kind of operation AS decide there's possibility they could use their own lounge.
BA do have other airlines use their lounges (some of them are even Priority Pass) so there is precedence for perhaps BA letting AS use it depending upon flight times. The Terraces lounge is very large but does get quite busy during the run up to and during BA's evening operation.