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erik1868 Apr 20, 2017 7:16 pm
Both pilots out of cockpit?
 
Is this normal procedure? Was on an E175 today and both pilots were out of cockpit for several minutes - one in restroom, one in galley. FA was in the cockpit on her own with door shut.

Eastbay1K Apr 20, 2017 7:18 pm
Sure one of the two you saw wasn't a jump seater?

beckoa Apr 20, 2017 7:22 pm
Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 28208260)
Sure one of the two you saw wasn't a jump seater?
That's my guess as well.

jerry a. laska Apr 20, 2017 7:22 pm
Originally Posted by erik1868 (Post 28208253)
Is this normal procedure? Was on an E175 today and both pilots were out of cockpit for several minutes - one in restroom, one in galley. FA was in the cockpit on her own with door shut.
Really? Are you sure there weren't three in the cockpit to start?
Or were they using the autopilot:

Fleck Apr 20, 2017 7:23 pm
Look, pax, no hands!

rustykettel Apr 20, 2017 8:04 pm
It's QX's solution to their pilot shortage- OJT. If the plane doesn't crash before the pilot returns from the lav, wings are awarded. :p

flytoeat Apr 20, 2017 8:31 pm
Originally Posted by erik1868 (Post 28208253)
Is this normal procedure? Was on an E175 today and both pilots were out of cockpit for several minutes - one in restroom, one in galley. FA was in the cockpit on her own with door shut.
Sorry, but I don't believe the appearance was reality. Two crew members are required to be in the cockpit at any given time, and one must be a pilot.

dayone Apr 20, 2017 10:25 pm
Originally Posted by Eastbay1K (Post 28208260)
Sure one of the two you saw wasn't a jump seater?
Originally Posted by beckoa (Post 28208276)
That's my guess as well.
100%.

erik1868 Apr 20, 2017 10:31 pm
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ls1uqh3ox...jU73zOl2a?dl=0

rustykettel Apr 20, 2017 10:59 pm
Did AS order their E175s without aisle curtains?

AS Flyer Apr 20, 2017 11:07 pm
there is always one pilot at the controls. Always. If you see two pilots outside of the cockpit then one is a jumpseater and one is a working pilot.

makrom Apr 20, 2017 11:39 pm
Originally Posted by AS Flyer (Post 28208890)
there is always one pilot at the controls. Always. If you see two pilots outside of the cockpit then one is a jumpseater and one is a working pilot.
Always? It's not like procedures can't be violated.

flyupfrnt Apr 20, 2017 11:42 pm
Originally Posted by makrom (Post 28208976)
Always? It's not like procedures can't be violated.
I would be surprised if the Pilot in Command would ever willingly leave the flight deck unattended and risk having his certificate / license revoked.

Toshbaf Apr 21, 2017 12:40 am
Originally Posted by AS Flyer (Post 28208890)
there is always one pilot at the controls. Always. If you see two pilots outside of the cockpit then one is a jumpseater and one is a working pilot.
Most likely, one was a jumpseater.

The next possibility is that one pilot is so obsessed with sex that he/she is willing to break the rules and leave the plane on autopilot just to flirt. Not that likely though.

SOCguy Apr 21, 2017 9:16 am
It was a jumpseater.


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