Jimgotkp

Sometimes not worth teaching people this stuff unless they show interest and ask you for help. It never works and is a complete waste of time if the other person doesn't actually do their part and commit themselves into this stuff.

CDKing

Currently all AA flights regardless of website booked on earn 100% of miles flown. The blog post about the AA changes suggested that booking on AS coded earns the same number of miles as an AS flight even if operated by American. The website doesn't seem to reflect this (AS sucks at keeping its website correct these days). However if it counts as AS or AS plus partners thresholds, that is still up for debate.

rustykettel

missydarlin answered in another thread (sorry, on cell so can't easily find it right now!) that AS coded AA operated will earn 100% but will count as partner miles and AA coded AS operated will be at the reduced AA chart rate but count as AS miles.

mrapollinax

Here you go

It's from the AA earning changes thread.

Eujeanie

OK, too confusing for this old brain.

The flights she booked are AA flights, AA metal, AA operated - just sold on the AS website (they are from PHX to PDX and back, AA 319 and AA 1494. What number of AS miles will she get?

mrapollinax

With that I would expect it to fall into the 4th scenario. Earning would fall under the new AA earning rates as a partner flight.

ashill

If booked on Alaska's web site, they are likely booked as AS codeshares (obviously operated by AA). AS makes it very difficult to tell whether you have a codeshare or a prime flight, both online and in the eticket receipt (perhaps largely because there are very few contexts in which it matters until Aug 1). If booked as AS-marketed flights, they earn according to the AS earning chart. If booked as AA-marketed flights, they earn according to the AA earning chart.

Because they're operated by AA, they count as partner miles for elite status purposes no matter which airline markets the flight, but that's almost certainly irrelevant for an infrequent flyer (since she won't earn elite status either way).

Note that "AA metal" and "AA operated" is redundant; you haven't said whether they're AA-marketed. AS's web site and eticket receipts put the operating carrier's logo next to each flight, irrespective of the marketing carrier.

Eujeanie

On AS's website they have the AA logo next to them.

The itin she sent me reads as follows:

Flight 1 of 2 (AA logo) American 319
(Alaska 1685)
Operated by American Airlines
Check in with American Airlines
Coach (H) - Nonstop

Flight 2 of 2 (AA logo) American 1494
(Alaska 1919)
Operated by American Airlines
Check in with American Airlines
Coach (H) - Nonstop

She has both an AA confirm # and an AS confirm #

missydarlin

I actually shopped for that market just now, and it shows AA319 in the matrix, but once I put it in my cart, it says:

American 319 (Alaska 1685)

So she will definitely earn 100% AS miles for the flight. Her extra $40 is going to some good use.

Eujeanie

I do feel better now, except she travels so little (mostly on WN) that she probably would have preferred to keep the money, had she known.

PV_Premier

buy the family member a nice (>$40) dinner when she comes to visit, and cut yourself some slack on the guilt trip

Eujeanie

Hey, she's getting a stay in an oceanfront house on the Oregon Coast, all her meals, being chauffeured around, not to mention getting out of the August Arizona heat for a few days - I think she's making out ok!

CDKing

Rg

Thanks. Now all we need AS to do us update their own website. I'm pretty used to errors and inaccurate information on the AS site now a days but not everyone reads Flyertalk. It seems more and more these days, we know more in here how things are supposed to work than many of those who works for AS. Its silly to direct someone back to the website in the blog for more details and no details are actually there.

ashill

Emphasis added. That's the one and only indication that it's the codeshare she booked. If it weren't booked as a codeshare, there would be no Alaska flight number affiliated with the reservation. As I noted, AS lists the operating carrier's logo next to each flight even if it's a codeshare marketed by a different airline (usually or always AS).