Aug 5, 2016, 8:34 pm
Last edit by: rustykettel
For Award Tickets, please see Consolidated JL award thread: Definitive Booking JL using AS Miles Thread [All Cabins]
It is possible to earn miles on JL now.
Awards are live, as of Dec. 6th, 2016 (not visible in the iOS app, but using the website at the moment). US/Canada to Asia and intra-Asia only. DEL is considered part of Asia. Stopovers are being allowed at the moment on intra-Asia flights involving TYO (NRT or HND) when pricing using the AS website. KIX stopovers or through routings do not seem to be allowed intra-Asia. KIX stopovers DO seem to work for ex-North America flights.
Flights to/from Hawaii can apparently be booked, but are not (yet) displayed on the award chart. Mileage costs are the same as those from the Continental U.S.
CGK is the only intra-Asia JL destination with F, if you are looking to "maximize" the award. JL has a number of 788 planes with slanty seat, last generation J, some of which fly from US destinations like YVR. You might wish to avoid those flights if you are "maximizing" your award.
Post #300 by yaychemistry has useful information on how the JL award booking process works.
It is possible to earn miles on JL now.
Awards are live, as of Dec. 6th, 2016 (not visible in the iOS app, but using the website at the moment). US/Canada to Asia and intra-Asia only. DEL is considered part of Asia. Stopovers are being allowed at the moment on intra-Asia flights involving TYO (NRT or HND) when pricing using the AS website. KIX stopovers or through routings do not seem to be allowed intra-Asia. KIX stopovers DO seem to work for ex-North America flights.
Flights to/from Hawaii can apparently be booked, but are not (yet) displayed on the award chart. Mileage costs are the same as those from the Continental U.S.
CGK is the only intra-Asia JL destination with F, if you are looking to "maximize" the award. JL has a number of 788 planes with slanty seat, last generation J, some of which fly from US destinations like YVR. You might wish to avoid those flights if you are "maximizing" your award.
Post #300 by yaychemistry has useful information on how the JL award booking process works.
Alaska Air Welcomes Japan Airlines (JL) as a Partner
Aug 22, 2016, 9:23 am
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You don't have a choice if you are in BA Executive Club. And surprisingly a lot of people who fly BA are... and JL still has award seats.
Aug 22, 2016, 11:08 am
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Choice of whether or not to have fuel surcharges on most awards.
... in the United States. Which doesn't do much good for someone living in London who doesn't want to fly shorthaul on AA/AS.
... in the United States. Which doesn't do much good for someone living in London who doesn't want to fly shorthaul on AA/AS.
Aug 24, 2016, 10:37 am
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Remember, this is FlyerTalk. There are many FTers who likely would complain, "Seven hours just isn't long enough to really appreciate a first class cabin!"
They would then proceed to book a repositioning flight to the Lower 48 to maximize the time in international first class while in the air.
Aug 24, 2016, 10:39 am
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Aug 24, 2016, 11:00 am
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Go look at the BA forum, why don't you? Surprisingly, many of those people use Avios to redeem on BA. And CX. And JL. Not just AB. Even though it's pretty expensive. They're not all going to come whooshing over to AS and give up BA Gold/GGL/etc. just because JL can be redeemed on AS.
Aug 30, 2016, 12:35 pm
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Remember, this is FlyerTalk. There are many FTers who likely would complain, "Seven hours just isn't long enough to really appreciate a first class cabin!"
They would then proceed to book a repositioning flight to the Lower 48 to maximize the time in international first class while in the air.
They would then proceed to book a repositioning flight to the Lower 48 to maximize the time in international first class while in the air.
Aug 30, 2016, 3:07 pm
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Lol...I would be one of those people......if I'm going to cough up all the miles for an international J or F redemption, I'm going to want to maximum my time as much as possible--after all, I'm not just trying to get from point A to point B, I'm trying to create a fun, relaxing, and enjoyable travel experience.
Aug 30, 2016, 4:01 pm
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Lol...I would be one of those people......if I'm going to cough up all the miles for an international J or F redemption, I'm going to want to maximum my time as much as possible--after all, I'm not just trying to get from point A to point B, I'm trying to create a fun, relaxing, and enjoyable travel experience.
I mostly take complicated itineraries out of necessity ("this is the award inventory, you get what you get") plus "I'd like to be comfortable" on awards, not out of desire. Assuming TG started flying SEA-BKK nonstop and there was C/J award inventory and a lie-flat, I'd be there in a heartbeat and only flying 15 hours, over flying CX F SEA-LAX-HKG-BKK 24+ hours. Yes, Pier F is nice. So is a Bangkok hotel bed. And the last time I did CX F SEA-LAX-HKG-BKK, there were delays on both SEA-LAX and HKG-BKK, the first of which could have blown my entire travel day to smithereens if it had gone about 45 minutes longer...
Aug 30, 2016, 4:03 pm
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Go look at the BA forum, why don't you? Surprisingly, many of those people use Avios to redeem on BA. And CX. And JL. Not just AB. Even though it's pretty expensive. They're not all going to come whooshing over to AS and give up BA Gold/GGL/etc. just because JL can be redeemed on AS.
Aug 30, 2016, 4:18 pm
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My point is people DO want to collect Avios and DO pay those surcharges to fly JL (among other airlines).
I find your assertion that a much smaller AS program is going to suddenly suck out all the JL award inventory just because there aren't fuel surcharges entirely risible. JL has had award inventory available to all of OW for years now. They still have award seats. One more partner (that isn't that large compared to the mass of OW) isn't going to mess it all up.
Case in point: when US joined OW prior to the AA/US merger, JL inventory didn't disappear- and US had, surprisingly enough, even better award rules to exploit than AS does, such as an RTW routing allowed on certain awards (as well as YQ-free BA redemptions for a month or two). US was a much larger airline than AS is now. US also was even more notorious about selling miles cheap to anyone with a pulse than AS was.
I find your assertion that a much smaller AS program is going to suddenly suck out all the JL award inventory just because there aren't fuel surcharges entirely risible. JL has had award inventory available to all of OW for years now. They still have award seats. One more partner (that isn't that large compared to the mass of OW) isn't going to mess it all up.
Case in point: when US joined OW prior to the AA/US merger, JL inventory didn't disappear- and US had, surprisingly enough, even better award rules to exploit than AS does, such as an RTW routing allowed on certain awards (as well as YQ-free BA redemptions for a month or two). US was a much larger airline than AS is now. US also was even more notorious about selling miles cheap to anyone with a pulse than AS was.
