Earning miles for QF flights - must be on QF ticket stock?
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Earning miles for QF flights - must be on QF ticket stock?
Hello all
I notice on the AS website, there seems to be a condition that earning miles on QF has to be on QF ticket stock - it actually refers to AM ticket stock so clearly a copy and paste or typo? Does anyone have any experience with this.
Two situations that I am hoping to earn AS miles on
- QF code and QF operated flight as part of on an LX long haul ticket ex Australia - fine to credit the QF flight to AS?
- QF code and QF operated flight on an AA issued oneworld round the world ticket?
Thanks!
I notice on the AS website, there seems to be a condition that earning miles on QF has to be on QF ticket stock - it actually refers to AM ticket stock so clearly a copy and paste or typo? Does anyone have any experience with this.
Two situations that I am hoping to earn AS miles on
- QF code and QF operated flight as part of on an LX long haul ticket ex Australia - fine to credit the QF flight to AS?
- QF code and QF operated flight on an AA issued oneworld round the world ticket?
Thanks!
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I think that may be a copy and paste error - the AM page specifies that flights must be operated, marketed, and ticketed by AM; QF doesn't have the ticketing language.
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Hello all
I notice on the AS website, there seems to be a condition that earning miles on QF has to be on QF ticket stock - it actually refers to AM ticket stock so clearly a copy and paste or typo? Does anyone have any experience with this.
Two situations that I am hoping to earn AS miles on
- QF code and QF operated flight as part of on an LX long haul ticket ex Australia - fine to credit the QF flight to AS?
- QF code and QF operated flight on an AA issued oneworld round the world ticket?
Thanks!
I notice on the AS website, there seems to be a condition that earning miles on QF has to be on QF ticket stock - it actually refers to AM ticket stock so clearly a copy and paste or typo? Does anyone have any experience with this.
Two situations that I am hoping to earn AS miles on
- QF code and QF operated flight as part of on an LX long haul ticket ex Australia - fine to credit the QF flight to AS?
- QF code and QF operated flight on an AA issued oneworld round the world ticket?
Thanks!
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Hello all
I notice on the AS website, there seems to be a condition that earning miles on QF has to be on QF ticket stock - it actually refers to AM ticket stock so clearly a copy and paste or typo? Does anyone have any experience with this.
Two situations that I am hoping to earn AS miles on
- QF code and QF operated flight as part of on an LX long haul ticket ex Australia - fine to credit the QF flight to AS?
- QF code and QF operated flight on an AA issued oneworld round the world ticket?
Thanks!
I notice on the AS website, there seems to be a condition that earning miles on QF has to be on QF ticket stock - it actually refers to AM ticket stock so clearly a copy and paste or typo? Does anyone have any experience with this.
Two situations that I am hoping to earn AS miles on
- QF code and QF operated flight as part of on an LX long haul ticket ex Australia - fine to credit the QF flight to AS?
- QF code and QF operated flight on an AA issued oneworld round the world ticket?
Thanks!
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Officially it needs to be marketed by the operating carrier but in practice as long is its a partner that is marketing carrier and the operating carrier is also partner (and in the proper fare buckets) you will likely get miles whether automatically or a manual request.
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Which is why I doubt the LX ticket will work...
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Just to clarify, LX tickets from Australia allow QF, CX and other non-Star Alliance airlines to be included. The QF and CX flights are booked using QF and CX flight numbers and not code-share. As such, the QF flight in question is booked using the QF code and, as such, is booked, marketed and operated as a QF flight number. It is just not issued on QF ticket stock. I find it hard to believe that ticket stock will be an issue as if only QF ticket stock is permitted, then you would not be able to earn miles on oneworld Global Explorer fares issued by, for example, AA. Even AS itself participates in the Global Explorer fare.
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Just to clarify, LX tickets from Australia allow QF, CX and other non-Star Alliance airlines to be included. The QF and CX flights are booked using QF and CX flight numbers and not code-share. As such, the QF flight in question is booked using the QF code and, as such, is booked, marketed and operated as a QF flight number. It is just not issued on QF ticket stock. I find it hard to believe that ticket stock will be an issue as if only QF ticket stock is permitted, then you would not be able to earn miles on oneworld Global Explorer fares issued by, for example, AA. Even AS itself participates in the Global Explorer fare.
There are some issues with the AS Site since they redesigned the partner pages. For instance on the Qantas Page the mention of AM ticket stock is just an operator error and it should say:
To ensure flight credit, the two-letter airline code (QF) must precede the flight number (for example, QF XXXX) on your ticket receipt or boarding pass, and the ticket must be issued on Qantas ticket stock.
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In theory, you can issue a UA flight on AS ticket stock via interline. Good luck getting that UA flight credited to AS Mileage Plan, though.
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I've flown UA-issued tickets on AA flights and credited to AS without issue. Same with UA-issued tickets on DL flights, and credited to AS.
Coding is the concern.
Is it only AM that has the ticket stock notation? I wonder why that is.
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Good to know about stock. Yea UA sells connecting flights on non partner airlines including Alaska. they would rather put some revenue on another carrier than lose a sale.
I do think AS needs to lose the whole wording about stock and marketing carrier and stick with operated by a partner. Its possible they just list it as a general disclaimer for any time they decide they don't want to issue miles
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I had DL-marketed, AF-operated segments DTW-CDG-CMN as part of a larger trip booked in (dirt-cheap) "V" class on DL. AS said no dice on the mileage for the AF-operated flights when I requested manually. The DL segments of the trip credited normally.
Lesson learned: don't book low fare classes if you need the miles.
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FWIW I had no luck with that in practice with DL/AF 2 years ago.
I had DL-marketed, AF-operated segments DTW-CDG-CMN as part of a larger trip booked in (dirt-cheap) "V" class on DL. AS said no dice on the mileage for the AF-operated flights when I requested manually. The DL segments of the trip credited normally.
Lesson learned: don't book low fare classes if you need the miles.
I had DL-marketed, AF-operated segments DTW-CDG-CMN as part of a larger trip booked in (dirt-cheap) "V" class on DL. AS said no dice on the mileage for the AF-operated flights when I requested manually. The DL segments of the trip credited normally.
Lesson learned: don't book low fare classes if you need the miles.