CDKing

Ill up that. How about BOS-SAN-LIH for $500 PP RT advance puchase K fares w/ Companion Cert + instant GGUs.

ANC

If your seatbacks were 5 inches thick what a/c was that? You mustve been on one of the first 738s if thats the case

Bethelite

I guess I don't see how lack of legroom in First Class is offset by route structure or fare. Why don't they just make the pitch 30 inches and shave another 50 bucks off the ticket price? 28 inches? 26 inches? It's just a bus ride in the sky with free drinks if you are in F, right?

JIMCHI

On this flight, you are right. It was really quite cramped, although the seat width was nice. I don't know the ship number were were on but it shows a 737-800. The actual pitch may have been less than 36", as that measures a point on one seat to the same point on the same seat behind. But if the seat back is so thick, as these were, then that actually takes up more space. My wife and I also felt that the seat cushion was uncomfortable.

anc-ord772

Two True Statements

1. AS F legroom is pathetic.

2. F for a K fare plus GGU can provide excellent value.

starbug

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dayone

As does "pathetic."

JIMCHI

If you like the seats, good for you. I shared our experience and some others have agreed. We also fly in F on routes where AS does have competition and based on this "horrible" experience we will use AS only when we have to.

PV_Premier

sweet, more upgrades for me out of SMF!

you're right in that AS does not have the best hard and soft product of the US carriers in F. i'd say DL is probably best, given that they have F deployed in the most regional jets -- however their hard product on mainline birds is woefully inconsistent (they have about 27,000 different 757 configs, for instance).

but what does make up for it on AS is the outstanding service i have received, and my 100% upgrade percentage since moving over from United 18 months ago. even on DL metal with my AS FF#, my upgrade percentage is about equivalent to my past UA upgrade % as a 1K.

LIH Prem

I agree about the seat pitch on the -800's. On some of them, doesn't the seat bottom move forward as you recline more than a couple of inches? Not like a shell seat, because you still recline into the space behind you, but some sort of hybrid I guess.

I have difficulty getting in the window seats, especially if anybody is reclined. Even without the recline, it's difficult to get into the window seats.

Still the seat width and shoulder room is much better than coach.

As long as I don't have to get up mid-flight, it's fine I guess. Aisle or bulkhead seating may be a better option though. I like the window for picture taking and not being disturbed and the little extra bit of room against the fuselage.

I really do prefer the older F seats on the -700s for pitch anyway. (and no boxes below the seats, no power either though, which kind of sucks.)

-David

anc-ord772

Nope. It's an apt description. If I can't get out of the window seat with the seat in front reclined, I'm not inclined to slap AS (or any airline) on the back and say "this is totally reasonable!" They have you folks for that I guess.

mbluecpa

Are there any domestic F seats that meet this test? I find AA has the most generous pitch and allows the window seat passenger to step into the aisle without major acrobatics...but not when the seat in front is reclined.

WrightHI

Like better than other carriers' better F product, no. Like better than the coach seats I'd be sitting in a lot more often on those other carriers, oh yes. It's not that AS first is great, it's that it's a whole lot better than coach (for this wide-shouldered, short-legged passenger; YMMV) and that I can sit there consistently for a price I'm willing to pay.

dayone

No, it's hyperbole, at least to most of us.

JIMCHI

Regardless of what you want to call it, most everyone seems to agree that the seat pitch/legroom on AS's 737-800's at 36" is the smallest of any other major carrier's F class seat. Let's not argue over the semantics.