AF/KL accrual rate change
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AF/KL accrual rate change
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...ir-france.aspx
Voyager (Economy): Earn 25% of actual flight miles* flown in T, E, N, V, R, or G classes of service. Earn 50% of actual flight miles* in H, L, or Q classes of service. Earn 75% of actual flight miles* in U or K. Earn actual flight miles* in Y, B, or M classes of service.
Premium Voyager (Premium Economy): Earn actual flight miles* flown in A classof service. Earn actual flight miles* flown in W or S classes of service, plus 25% Bonus Miles.
Affaires (Business): Earn actual flight miles* flown in J, C, D, I, or Z classes of service, plus 25% Bonus Miles.
La Premiere (First): Earn actual flight miles* flown in P or F classes of service, plus 50% Bonus Miles.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...tners/klm.aspx
Economy Class Cabin: Earn 25% of actual flight miles* flown in T, E, N, V, R, or G classes of service. Earn 50% of actual flight miles* in H, L, Q, S, or A classes of service. Earn 75% of actual flight miles* in U, K, or W. Earn actual flight miles* in Y, B, or M classes of service.
Business Class Cabin: Earn actual flight miles* flown in J, C, D, I or Z classes of service, plus 25% Bonus Miles.
Voyager (Economy): Earn 25% of actual flight miles* flown in T, E, N, V, R, or G classes of service. Earn 50% of actual flight miles* in H, L, or Q classes of service. Earn 75% of actual flight miles* in U or K. Earn actual flight miles* in Y, B, or M classes of service.
Premium Voyager (Premium Economy): Earn actual flight miles* flown in A classof service. Earn actual flight miles* flown in W or S classes of service, plus 25% Bonus Miles.
Affaires (Business): Earn actual flight miles* flown in J, C, D, I, or Z classes of service, plus 25% Bonus Miles.
La Premiere (First): Earn actual flight miles* flown in P or F classes of service, plus 50% Bonus Miles.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...tners/klm.aspx
Economy Class Cabin: Earn 25% of actual flight miles* flown in T, E, N, V, R, or G classes of service. Earn 50% of actual flight miles* in H, L, Q, S, or A classes of service. Earn 75% of actual flight miles* in U, K, or W. Earn actual flight miles* in Y, B, or M classes of service.
Business Class Cabin: Earn actual flight miles* flown in J, C, D, I or Z classes of service, plus 25% Bonus Miles.
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Wow, it's a slaughter on the partner cheap economy fare front. AF, AM, BA, CX, DL, EK, KE, KL, none of them give 100% on cheap fares.
That leaves AA, FJ, LA, QF as full EQM partners oon cheap fares...
That leaves AA, FJ, LA, QF as full EQM partners oon cheap fares...
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They did move some from the No Earning list to the 25% list ... but yes, overall, its pretty rough.
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I almost booked an AF flight instead of DL (for extra $) this morning. Glad I didn't.
I was wondering when this was going to happen, to be honest. FB members only get 25% for the flights we used to receive 100% on.
I was wondering when this was going to happen, to be honest. FB members only get 25% for the flights we used to receive 100% on.
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What others do we need to watch out for
This is becoming a bit depressing. But KL/AF probably were influenced by...DL. That's my guess as they are in a JV.
What others do we need to watch out for
This is becoming a bit depressing. But KL/AF probably were influenced by...DL. That's my guess as they are in a JV.
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My fantasy: AA and AS draw a line in the sand and pledge to keep full EQM earning regardless of fare class, AS joins OneWorld and starts reciprocal upgrades with AA, completely cutting all ties with DL and other SkyTeam partners.
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If you're buying discount economy from the west coast to Europe and Icelandair is $400 less than BA/KL/AF/etc., as it often is, would you take the cheap ticket -- or the AS miles? When you're talking about 10,000 EQMs (abd more RDMs for MVP and higher), I'm influenced to take BA/KL/AF. When the "carrot" is a mere 25% of that, the hell with it -- I'll fly Icelandair and pocket the savings.
The whole point of these programs is to drive loyal buying behavior among the broad middle of frequent flyers. The lowest tier of customers will always go for cheap, and the highest tier will usually go for schedule / nonstops / convenience. The rest of us in the middle can be persuaded to buy loyally, pay more and / or accept suboptimal itineraries, in return for FF status and rewards.
But the airlines are intent on blowing up that model and driving most everyone to just look for the cheapest possible ticket, which in the long run can't be good for them. An awful lot of marginal revenue comes from (or used to come from) customers spending more than necessary to book their "preferred" carrier. But no carrot, no sale.
This is what happens when competition and options decline to the point where the airlines can operate like inescapable public utilities. They figure they don't have to reward most people for choosing them because there's less choice, fewer options, and so much less capacity, and much of the time they're right.
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The silver lining in all of these coach eqm reductions is that international business class fares are very affordable now. I have purchased several business class tickets from the west coast to Europe this year - all between $1320-$1750.
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Not as a rule. They can be if you hit a mystic trifecta of travel date, destination, and advance-purchase period. I'm looking for fall tickets to the UK and the only business class offers under $3,000 are on Icelandair, whose Saga Class is not really business class at all -- most tariffs are $5k-$6k.