kilbornr

Are there any experiences of people being denied when trying to get mileage credit for a flight that is not marketed by the operating carrier and falls outside of AS's range of flight numbers?

Here is my upcoming situation:
I'm on JFK-CDG in the fall on a paid I fare, BA marketed, AA metal. I'm also an AS MVP Gold, but no status with AA or BA.

The trip is 7270miles. I calculate the following:
Credit to BA - 150% - 10905 miles
Credit to AA - 125% - 9088 miles
Credit to AS - 125%*200% - 18175 miles

AS is the obvious choice, but I don't want to be stuck with nothing. Anybody have experience of being denied? If I am denied AS, can I then try to claim BA? I'll make sure to save all boarding passes.

I wonder if it makes sense to intentionally not have a FF on the reservation and just try to work things afterward?

LwoodY2K

Your expression of math for the AS case is confusing but I think it's the right RDM result - I class gives 50% bonus and then MVPG gives 100% bonus, so you end up at 2.5x the base flown.

I've had my AS number on a BA metal AA number flight and gotten no miles for it. I (foolishly) didn't try to credit it elsewhere.
I've also had BA credit to AA rather than AS (despite my AS number being on the boarding pass). In that case, I was able to get AA to uncredit the miles and then get AS to credit them.

flytoeat

In my experience, you'll get credit on AS. To be safe, you can chose not to enter a frequent flyer number and send them to AS. If for some reason AS won't credit, you can then submit them to BA or AA.

kilbornr

I class gives 25% bonus (125%) and MVPG gives 100% bonus (200%). 125%*200%=1.25*2.00=2.5x

kilbornr

Thanks for relaying the experience!

LwoodY2K

OK so two things:
1. Class of service bonus and MVP bonus are not multiplicative. They are instead additive. If you were in eg BA F (200% bonus miles, aka 300% earned) and an MVP (100% bonus miles, aka 200% earned) you end up with 4x the base miles and not 6x.
2. I on BA gives 50% COS bonus, not 25%:

kilbornr

Thanks for the clarification. I see my mistake. I was assuming the COS was based on the operating carrier, not the marketing carrier.

LwoodY2K

Oh right that.

So actually if you're applying for a credit after the flights for AA operated BA marketed, AS claims they won't credit you (and generally the BA flight number will fall outside of the range of numbers allowed for credit on the AS partner page). Some people advocate getting an AA BP and submitting your claim as an AA flight in which case it would be AA metal/AA rules.
(I do not think you should do that but I won't debate that here)

So anyway, if it was credited as an AA I-class flight you'd actually get 16357.5 RDM (7270 * 100% (base) + 7270 * 25% (COS bonus) + 7270 * 100% (MVPG bonus)).

IceTrojan

For those who have gotten credit on a partner codeshare on another partner (let's say, DL operated by AF), did you put your AS number in the reservation or leave it blank?

I'm thinking that a complicating factor could be presenting another airline's elite card (say, AZ's Freccia Alata card) for lounge access, and having the lounge attendants enter or replace/enter AZ's number on the reservation instead.

Just a mental exercise, of course...

igor82j

Does a DL marketed flight (operated by AM), X class, earn miles in AS program?
Coz AM X class earns zero. Thanks!

eponymous_coward

Emphasis added:

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/mi...ers/delta.aspx

I wouldn't count on it, but I guess go ahead and submit the boarding pass if it's not credited, worst that can happen is you get nothing?

izzik

This issue with trying to keep to a 100% non-codeshare itinerary for purposes of full mileage capture is what's keeping me from jumping on the AS MP bandwagon (away from AA). I'm not sure if there's any comfort in knowing that YMMV..

If AS can clear this up soon, it would be such a boon for AAdvantage elites looking to jump ship. Then again, the codeshare mileage thing has been an issue for a long time now.

missamo80

I've always had my AS MP number in the reservation.

Neil

missamo80

I was denied when I tried to claim an AF flight operated by Tarom that fell outside of the range. The response I got was since the flight was operated by Tarom, I couldn't get credit.

It seems the ask nicely approach only works when the flight is marketed and operated by AF partners (e.g. DL/AF)

Neil

mrapollinax

Not quite. It should work if the AF partner is also an AS partner, which could be either DL or KL. So if it is operated by DL or KL and marketed by AF you should be able to get the partner credits based on those earning charts IF the flight falls within the ranges of eligible flights. It should also work with the OW codeshares as long as they are all AS partners ie AA/BA/QF/JL.

Your example is a AF partner that is not a AS partner. So all AS has to work with is the AF flight number which is outside of the earnings chart.