Aug 7, 2015, 8:58 am
Cathay Pacific Award Availability
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Both BA and JL websites can be used to search for CX partner inventory. JL is typically a more accurate engine. BA should only be used on a per-segment basis (in other words, do not search for LAX-BKK, search for LAX-HKG, then HKG-BKK). Note that AS award availability is only for 330 days, the BA engine will show availability to 365 days.
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
when using Alaska Airlines Miles
North American CX Gateway Cities
New York City (JFK/EWR)
Boston (BOS)
Toronto (YYZ)
Chicago (ORD)
Vancouver (YVR)
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
Notes and tips:
You cannot book CX award flights on alaskaair.com.
http://www.alaskaair.com/content/mil...rs/cathay.aspx
Award Travel on Cathay Pacific
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
Book Your Award Travel: To use Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan™ Miles on Cathay Pacific, call Alaska Airlines Reservations at 1-800-252-7522 (TTY: Dial 711 for Relay Services) 5:00 a.m. - Midnight (PT), daily
There are mixed reports on getting a CX stopover outside of HKG. By rule, HKG is the only allowed stopover. Stopovers are not allowed on intra-Asia award bookings (you will need a North American segment to be able to book a stopover).
All CX awards except for the intra-Asia award must either originate or end in HKG or North America. If you wish to fly Middle East/India/Europe/Asia/Australia to a CX destination beyond your initial flight to or from HKG that is not a North American destination, it will be two awards: XXX-HKG and HKG-YYY. CX intra-Asia awards do not include a stopover.
CX releases availability close in. If you do a change where you book another cabin and upgrade to F (which often may be the only way to get F on CX), you will be charged the $125 rebooking fee (waived for MVPG+).
*Have the AS CSR perform the search one leg at a time (Transoceanic first). That might yield more results than the whole itinerary at once.*
The CX forum has a FAQ on the CX experience.
Award eligible Destinations
By region.
(Dragon Air is not allowed on AS award)
Africa
Johannesburg (JNB)
Asia
Bangkok (BKK)
Beijing (PEK)
Cebu (CEB)
Denpasar (Bali) (DPS)
Fukuoka (FUK)
Ho Chi Minh City (SGN)
Hong Kong (HKG)
Jakarta (CGK)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) [Ends 30 April]
Manila (MNL)
Osaka (KIX)
Sapporo (CTS)
Seoul (ICN)
Shanghai (PVG)
Singapore (SIN)
Surabaya (SUB)
Taipei (TPE)
Tokyo (HND)
Australia/NZ
Adelaide (ADL)
Auckland (AKL)
Brisbane (BNE)
Cairns (CNS)
Melbourne (MEL)
Perth (PER)
Sydney (SYD)
India/Middle East
Bahrain (BAH)
Chennai (MAA)
Colombo (CMB)
Delhi (DEL)
Doha (DOH) [Discontinued as of Feb 2016]
Dubai (DXB)
Hyderabad (HYD)
Malé (MLE)
Mumbai (BOM)
Riyadh (RUH)
Tel Aviv (TLV)
Europe (To/from HKG only. NA is separate award)
Amsterdam (AMS)
Barcelona (BCN)
Düsseldorf (DUS)
Frankfurt (FRA)
London (LHR, LGW)
Manchester (MAN)
Milan (MXP)
Paris (CDG)
Rome (FCO)
Zurich (ZRH)
CX (Cathay) Award availability
Jul 7, 2015, 11:25 am
#766
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That is what I figured but I wanted to check. Unfortunately this will more then likely be a last minute return so I am trying to get my head around best available options. I am hoping that on that day HKG-LAX is open and I can just take the train home. Thanks you ^
Jul 7, 2015, 12:22 pm
#767
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Technically is not allowed doesn't mean you cant get lotto lucky and get it booked. My view when looking at routings is to avoid legs on domestic flights and if you have to pick the shortest domestic leg.
Jul 10, 2015, 12:43 pm
#768
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Looking for expert help.
Want to go from any gateway city to NRT (or HND, Sapparro, or Taipei) on CX in late January/early February in J or F.
Haven't redeemed for CX in 3+ years so out of the loop.
Is BA still best to search. Am I already late to the party (would be for 2).
Any advice would be appreciated.
Want to go from any gateway city to NRT (or HND, Sapparro, or Taipei) on CX in late January/early February in J or F.
Haven't redeemed for CX in 3+ years so out of the loop.
Is BA still best to search. Am I already late to the party (would be for 2).
Any advice would be appreciated.
Jul 10, 2015, 1:18 pm
#769
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Looking for expert help.
Want to go from any gateway city to NRT (or HND, Sapparro, or Taipei) on CX in late January/early February in J or F.
Haven't redeemed for CX in 3+ years so out of the loop.
Is BA still best to search. Am I already late to the party (would be for 2).
Any advice would be appreciated.
Want to go from any gateway city to NRT (or HND, Sapparro, or Taipei) on CX in late January/early February in J or F.
Haven't redeemed for CX in 3+ years so out of the loop.
Is BA still best to search. Am I already late to the party (would be for 2).
Any advice would be appreciated.
Jul 10, 2015, 3:56 pm
#770
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Looking for expert help.
Want to go from any gateway city to NRT (or HND, Sapparro, or Taipei) on CX in late January/early February in J or F.
Haven't redeemed for CX in 3+ years so out of the loop.
Is BA still best to search. Am I already late to the party (would be for 2).
Any advice would be appreciated.
Want to go from any gateway city to NRT (or HND, Sapparro, or Taipei) on CX in late January/early February in J or F.
Haven't redeemed for CX in 3+ years so out of the loop.
Is BA still best to search. Am I already late to the party (would be for 2).
Any advice would be appreciated.
Jul 10, 2015, 4:00 pm
#771
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Location: Treasure Coast, FL
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Posts: 4,578
Thanks to both of y'all!
Jul 10, 2015, 4:15 pm
#772
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Jul 11, 2015, 2:21 am
#773
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Although keep in mind that [sometimes] CX gives different availability to BA and AS [1 and 0, 2 and 1...].
Last edited by jms_uk; Jul 11, 2015 at 4:41 pm
Jul 11, 2015, 10:09 am
#774
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Jul 11, 2015, 4:45 pm
#775
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I've edited my post to reflect that this might happen sometimes...
As it was said upthread, check on JL.com as well. Whenever this happened to me, BA was showing availability and JL wasn't.
Jul 11, 2015, 7:13 pm
#776
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Not many, maybe 3 in last 4-5 months. But over the same time period, I've often came across a situation when ba.com would show one seat, but AS couldn't see it at all. Mainly in F, once in J as well.
I've edited my post to reflect that this might happen sometimes...
As it was said upthread, check on JL.com as well. Whenever this happened to me, BA was showing availability and JL wasn't.
There is a delay in space showing up for AS if its newly released (and BA shows it). But based on my sample set, it shows up typically within 12-24 hours.
Originally Posted by jms_uk
I've edited my post to reflect that this might happen sometimes...
As it was said upthread, check on JL.com as well. Whenever this happened to me, BA was showing availability and JL wasn't.
Jul 30, 2015, 11:48 pm
#777
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Not many, maybe 3 in last 4-5 months. But over the same time period, I've often came across a situation when ba.com would show one seat, but AS couldn't see it at all. Mainly in F, once in J as well.
I've edited my post to reflect that this might happen sometimes...
As it was said upthread, check on JL.com as well. Whenever this happened to me, BA was showing availability and JL wasn't.
I've edited my post to reflect that this might happen sometimes...
As it was said upthread, check on JL.com as well. Whenever this happened to me, BA was showing availability and JL wasn't.
FWIW, just booked CX F on AS with BA showing F award availability = 1. It now shows 0.
Aug 4, 2015, 11:51 am
#778
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I'm trying to book JFK-YVR (stopover) - HKG-BKK. I have called into the call center 3+ times and the representative can never seen the inventory that I see from ba.com and jal.com
Does anyone have any tips for this particular segment? On one call the representative thought there was a special rule for the CX JFK-YVR sector that did not allow bookings with Alaska miles.
If I cannot get the JFK-YVR-HKG-BKK routing, does anyone know if I can do FLL-SEA-SFO (stopover) - HKG - BKK? The first 2 segments would be on AS. If it's booked as a CX J award, (50k miles ow), would I be able to book the AS segments in First (2 cabin plane)?
Thanks, this thread has been super helpful.
Does anyone have any tips for this particular segment? On one call the representative thought there was a special rule for the CX JFK-YVR sector that did not allow bookings with Alaska miles.
If I cannot get the JFK-YVR-HKG-BKK routing, does anyone know if I can do FLL-SEA-SFO (stopover) - HKG - BKK? The first 2 segments would be on AS. If it's booked as a CX J award, (50k miles ow), would I be able to book the AS segments in First (2 cabin plane)?
Thanks, this thread has been super helpful.
Aug 4, 2015, 12:37 pm
#779
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Yes you should be able to do FLL-SEA-SFO/SFO-HKG-BKK, and you can book the AS to F if the saver award is available.
Aug 4, 2015, 1:07 pm
#780
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Tell your rep they should read the AS website...
The problem is I've not been able to get a CX stopover anywhere other than HKG. I've gotten an AS stopover, though.
You are feeding them segment by segment, right? How about if you just feed YVR-HKG-BKK? Does that work?
The odds of you getting FLL-SEA in AS F on award are not particularly good. AS transcon award F availability is like finding a needle in about a million haystacks (Y transcon availability isn't great, but it's better than F). SEA-SFO F availability would be a lot easier.
Last edited by eponymous_coward; Aug 4, 2015 at 1:12 pm