Gone: PHF, ACY, AVL, MLI
Aug 1, 2011, 12:56 pm
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Gone: PHF, ACY, AVL, MLI
http://hamptonroads.com/2011/08/sout...t-newport-news
http://insidebiz.com/news/southwest-...t-newport-news
Two articles released today. One states that PHF was announced to be cut while the other mentions that ACY, MLI, and AVL are also to be cut.
http://insidebiz.com/news/southwest-...t-newport-news
Two articles released today. One states that PHF was announced to be cut while the other mentions that ACY, MLI, and AVL are also to be cut.
Aug 1, 2011, 1:08 pm
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Wow, unfortunately, we are very extremely disappointed the news to hear. Why they cut the city? I cannot not believe it. PHF has been very successful. Maybe someday in the future if they will be back to PHF, ACY, MLI and few others. If they have enough more profitable routes. PHF is a very popular route. FL has already flies those 2 routes in between ORF & RIC, too. Do you really think WN/FL will announced more specific new routes or etc.
Aug 1, 2011, 1:38 pm
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It was going to be either ORF or PHF and I couldn't see them dumping a legacy WN station.
Aug 1, 2011, 2:30 pm
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So is this The Southwest Effect 2.0? Sounds pretty crappy if you're a ACY, AVL, MLI or PHF customer. But hey everyone, bags fly free!
Aug 1, 2011, 2:33 pm
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Aug 1, 2011, 4:00 pm
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Sad to see this. When I lived in PHF I had flown PHF-LGA/BOS/MCO/ATL, which is to say, every FL route from PHF.
Whoever made this decision obviously has never driven to ORF via the bridge tunnel. While it is a relatively short drive PHF-ORF, when departing from ORF one would need to leave at least a couple hours earlier just in case of traffic.
Whoever made this decision obviously has never driven to ORF via the bridge tunnel. While it is a relatively short drive PHF-ORF, when departing from ORF one would need to leave at least a couple hours earlier just in case of traffic.
Aug 1, 2011, 4:16 pm
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Not cool. I was a fan of the ACY service...so long quick weekend trips...
Aug 1, 2011, 7:44 pm
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Technically, the ACY serviced was affected by the ACY-ATL subsidy, which was set to expire:
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/a...cc4c002e0.html
So, even if Southwest didn't purchase AirTran, AirTran would be likely be making the same decision to pull out of ACY.
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/a...cc4c002e0.html
So, even if Southwest didn't purchase AirTran, AirTran would be likely be making the same decision to pull out of ACY.
Aug 1, 2011, 7:55 pm
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Why FL pulling out of PHF, ACY, MLI, AVL? I thought those routes has been very successful. I wasn't sure why FL is doing it. Someday in the future if WN/FL will reinstating to MLI, ACY, PHF or AVL. If the economy is improved enough.
Aug 1, 2011, 10:27 pm
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Aug 2, 2011, 7:18 am
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Well, which is it?
Is this an example of the "low fares further" or the "growth" that they sold everyone on when creating this deal?
Aug 2, 2011, 8:51 am
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Have you ever tried to drive in the Hampton Roads area? That 30 mile drive has taken me two hours before! And don't expect another bridge / tunnel to be built any time soon ... RIP PHF (I'm seeing what to expect out of the "Southwest Effect").
Aug 2, 2011, 9:20 am
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Check the passenger counts. Check the average fare levels from those cities. Can Southwest deploy the assets (people and aircraft) to make more money somewhere else?
Aug 2, 2011, 10:13 am
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Airtran is a lame/dead duck. Long live Southwhatever!
I've got a bunch of A+ points that are expiring one by one. I've chosen another airline for loyalty; but the truth is what I've really chosen is not to fly. And I believe that choice hurts everybody in the travel industry. Last year, I was Airtran Elite; this year I did not make one flight on any airline during the first six months of the year.(and no flights means no hotel spends
).I'm down to one free business class roundtrip with Airtran. I just paid my credit card fee, so I'll be getting two of those certs. But I only plan two more flights for this year, and I am very inclined to give those to my new airline of choice for the miles
.IMHO, the best thing Southpest can do is move very quickly to wipe away the last vestiges of Airtran, so the flying public can go ahead and get use to the downgrade.
Aug 2, 2011, 11:46 am
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Any predictions on who goes next?
My money is on:
ABE
MDT
DAY
EYW
My money is on:
ABE
MDT
DAY
EYW