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Old Jun 27, 08, 8:37 pm   #76
 
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IMO they should do a HYD-ORD-HYD. That is a very lucrative route.
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Old Jun 27, 08, 9:27 pm   #77
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IMO they should do a HYD-ORD-HYD. That is a very lucrative route.
Why do you think, it's lucrative?
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Old Jun 27, 08, 10:15 pm   #78
 
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Slightly OT, but are there any rumors of any more nonstops from ORD, to DEL or BOM?
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Old Jun 27, 08, 10:59 pm   #79
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Remember, Oliver2002 said: "Their concept is to fill the India and TATL routes with Y tix to cover their costs" - yes, and they *cover* the costs very well, in *both* directions, and probably also turn a profit on Y!!

(We are going to pay more than $2.5k per LH*Y* ticket for our summer vacation BOM-EWR-BOM...even when booking this now, so far ahead!)
Booking this far ahead does not necessarily mean getting a low, let alone the lowest fare. You can probably do better than that even now aslong as you are not travelling in the next few days.
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Old Jun 27, 08, 11:00 pm   #80
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Slightly OT, but are there any rumors of any more nonstops from ORD, to DEL or BOM?
Just as OT as your post, you will have to ask those who specialise in rumours.
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Old Jun 27, 08, 11:06 pm   #81
 
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Booking this far ahead does not necessarily mean getting a low, let alone the lowest fare. You can probably do better than that even now aslong as you are not travelling in the next few days.
Pray, do tell!

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Old Jun 27, 08, 11:27 pm   #82
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Pray, do tell!

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I did not say I will find you a cheaper fare. But if you could get WP EQMs on Jet Airways segments, I am sure you should be able to find cheaper fare.

Seriously. I do not know if you will find a cheaperfare, but chances are that you could. I wouldn't pay $25K for coach 4 months in advance, unless I was assured of an upgrade withi minimal miles.
LH fares were higher when I looked just now. But there were plenty of sub $1500 fares, including the nonstop BOM-EWR.
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Old Jun 28, 08, 11:41 am   #83
 
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IMO they should do a HYD-ORD-HYD. That is a very lucrative route.
HYD-SEA would be even more lucrative (and keep tons of microsoft people as a more or less captive market)
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Old Jun 28, 08, 1:12 pm   #84
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There is no doubt that HYD is growing as Bangalore is. But are these cetntres big enough like BOM or DEL to support non stops? Don't forget, DEL serves more than just Delhi, all of northern and eastern India, despite a few flights from CCU.
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Old Jun 28, 08, 2:27 pm   #85
 
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Kingfisher is rethinking.

Mallya rethinks overseas plans
Isn't everyone? With oil so unstable of course they're evaluating. Sad thing is that those A340-500s will have to come off the line this year.

I don't want to start even more rumours, but if the concept of this is to link the two silicon valleys of the world then how about an all-J config a la Singapore Airlines?

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HYD-SEA would be even more lucrative (and keep tons of microsoft people as a more or less captive market)
Prove it.
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Old Jun 28, 08, 8:06 pm   #86
 
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There is no doubt that HYD is growing as Bangalore is. But are these cetntres big enough like BOM or DEL to support non stops? Don't forget, DEL serves more than just Delhi, all of northern and eastern India, despite a few flights from CCU.
Hyderabad has a huge microsoft campus. Seattle? Well, its the closest intl arpt to Redmond.

Besides, anywhere on the east coast will do for the AP techies. HYD and BLR being newer airports, but BLR is woefully underspecced, means a lot of traffic should come into HYD real soon.

With the Hyderabad International Convention Center opening up - its pretty large, run by Accor / Novotel, I guess there should be a regular flow of large international conventions into the city. One already coming to Hyd - http://www.igf2008.org/ in December.
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Hyderabad has a huge microsoft campus. Seattle? Well, its the closest intl arpt to Redmond.

Besides, anywhere on the east coast will do for the AP techies. HYD and BLR being newer airports, but BLR is woefully underspecced, means a lot of traffic should come into HYD real soon.

With the Hyderabad International Convention Center opening up - its pretty large, run by Accor / Novotel, I guess there should be a regular flow of large international conventions into the city. One already coming to Hyd - http://www.igf2008.org/ in December.
I agree HYD is growing as many other cities are. There is a proposal for another international airport just outside Delhi, as well as one outside Bombay. Airports and or Airlines survive by serving wider markets rather than narrow segments of markets.
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Hyderabad has a huge microsoft campus. Seattle? Well, its the closest intl arpt to Redmond.

Besides, anywhere on the east coast will do for the AP techies. HYD and BLR being newer airports, but BLR is woefully underspecced, means a lot of traffic should come into HYD real soon.
If the SEA component was really strong, why would LH reduce its frequency on the FRA-SEA sector?
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Isn't everyone? With oil so unstable of course they're evaluating. Sad thing is that those A340-500s will have to come off the line this year.

I don't want to start even more rumours, but if the concept of this is to link the two silicon valleys of the world then how about an all-J config a la Singapore Airlines?
The 345 and 346, while nice airplanes for customers, are a CFO's nightmare. They burn fuel like airborne Hummers, cruise slower than the B777-200LR, and thereby add up to an hour to journey times on ULH flights. AC for one quickly ditched them in favor of the 777. TG was unable to make JFK-BKK work on the same aircraft.

I am completely unconvinced that a DAILY A345 service BLR-SFO -- despite repeated assertions of the 'connecting Silicon Valleys theory' -- is even remotely close to breakeven at $140 oil.
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Old Jul 2, 08, 5:24 pm   #90
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The 345 and 346, while nice airplanes for customers, are a CFO's nightmare. They burn fuel like airborne Hummers, cruise slower than the B777-200LR, and thereby add up to an hour to journey times on ULH flights. AC for one quickly ditched them in favor of the 777. TG was unable to make JFK-BKK work on the same aircraft.

I am completely unconvinced that a DAILY A345 service BLR-SFO -- despite repeated assertions of the 'connecting Silicon Valleys theory' -- is even remotely close to breakeven at $140 oil.
Firstly Bangalore is not a valley, nor is it as well developed as the real silicon valley is, technologically or otherwise. However, it is an important centre of tech companies in India as is Hyderabad. I think it was more of self worth bubble than anything else. Both, BLR and HYD need and can support more flights, but daily non stops to the U.S. from either of these cities is self delusional, especially, now. If BKK-JFK could not be done, BLR-SFO is even less likely to be successful.

The two cities grew so fast that prices of making land prices skyrocket almost touching or even exceeding levels of Delhi and Bombay. That was the bubble. During the last year, prices have come down by as much as 50% in some parts of Bangalore.
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