Flight in September
Aug 29, 2017, 3:37 pm
#16
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My flights haven't been changed by AB yet. I guess I'll give them a call
Aug 29, 2017, 4:23 pm
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I'm flying TXL-AUH-NRT with a friend on the 18th, but he booked his flights thru EY. He's already been rebooked on a different flight... instead of TXL, he's now leaving from DUS. How can EY just change the departure airport like that? I mean, we check this stuff, but what does the average flyer who doesn't check regularly do?
My flights haven't been changed by AB yet. I guess I'll give them a call
My flights haven't been changed by AB yet. I guess I'll give them a call
As to your question, AB is no longer flying long-haul commencing on the 18th, so there is no flight. It would make little sense for you to show up at TXL
EY has auto-rebooked, but under EC 261/2004 you have the option of cancelling for a full refund, rebooking now or rebooking for a later date.
The auto-rebook simply assures that you have something.
Aug 29, 2017, 4:25 pm
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Hard to tell honestly,
Did you book your flights before AB officially filled for insolvency?
If so, your ticket would be considered old debit and they won't have to reimburse you, iirc.
Did you book with an American credit card? If so, check to see what your coverage is there, there are some other posts on this form talking about US law regarding situations like these.
Did you book your flights before AB officially filled for insolvency?
If so, your ticket would be considered old debit and they won't have to reimburse you, iirc.
Did you book with an American credit card? If so, check to see what your coverage is there, there are some other posts on this form talking about US law regarding situations like these.
Any ticket paid for with a CC issued by a US or EU card issuer, and perhaps others, has specific coverage for exactly this situation, as a matter of law.
The passenger is 100% covered if the ticket cannot be performed due to insolvency.
This is one of many reasons why it is always essential to use a CC, not a debit card, bank transfer, cash or any other means of payment for all services to be rendered in the future, e.g. air tickets.
But, in the meantime, no need to tell people their funds are at risk.
Aug 30, 2017, 2:10 am
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As of today, you should be able to check for what date your particular flight is slated for termination.
If you read German, try the following article: http://svenblogt.boardingarea.com/et...erlin-fluegen/
If you read German, try the following article: http://svenblogt.boardingarea.com/et...erlin-fluegen/
Aug 30, 2017, 2:32 am
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Sorry I cannot read, or understand German. All long haul flights are being stopped September 12th? I have not seen anything of this nature being published anywhere, and you'd think you'd find it on their website.
im leaving September 20th SFO-TXL-MUC, return September 25th MUC-DUS-SFO. The website is still saying my flights are fine, but can anyone confirm that those dates will still be good?
im leaving September 20th SFO-TXL-MUC, return September 25th MUC-DUS-SFO. The website is still saying my flights are fine, but can anyone confirm that those dates will still be good?
Aug 30, 2017, 10:18 am
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If there's no change from this in English from yesterday http://atwonline.com/airports-routes...ing-insolvency , SFO-TXL will operate until Oct. 1.
Aug 30, 2017, 1:15 pm
#23
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I contacted AB and they said that both TXL-AUH flights will continue to operate until October 1, even though you can't buy tickets for the morning flight out of TXL and it is zero-ed out in FT. I'm pretty sure they just aren't admitting it yet...
Aug 30, 2017, 3:48 pm
#24
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Might be true for the US, but it's definitely not true for most if not all EU-issued CCs.
Aug 31, 2017, 6:28 am
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No need for fear-mongering.
Any ticket paid for with a CC issued by a US or EU card issuer, and perhaps others, has specific coverage for exactly this situation, as a matter of law.
The passenger is 100% covered if the ticket cannot be performed due to insolvency.
This is one of many reasons why it is always essential to use a CC, not a debit card, bank transfer, cash or any other means of payment for all services to be rendered in the future, e.g. air tickets.
But, in the meantime, no need to tell people their funds are at risk.
Any ticket paid for with a CC issued by a US or EU card issuer, and perhaps others, has specific coverage for exactly this situation, as a matter of law.
The passenger is 100% covered if the ticket cannot be performed due to insolvency.
This is one of many reasons why it is always essential to use a CC, not a debit card, bank transfer, cash or any other means of payment for all services to be rendered in the future, e.g. air tickets.
But, in the meantime, no need to tell people their funds are at risk.
Aug 31, 2017, 10:56 am
#27
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To follow up, after being told that the TXL-AUH flight was NOT cancelled just yesterday, I checked my reservation on the AB website, and found out that I had been re-routed. Instead of WAW-TXL-AUH-NRT (with AUH-NRT on EY codeshare), I'm now routed WAW-TXL-ZRH-AUH-NRT (with ZRH-AUH-NRT now on EY codeshare). So it looks like they are re-routing people instead of just cancelling or whatever. I'm assuming the intra-Europe routes won't disappear before October or November, so this routing should work fine. Maybe I can credit the WAW-TXL-ZRH AB flights to JL...
Sep 12, 2017, 9:51 am
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I think you just have to sit tight and see what happens, keep watching your booking.
Unfortunately I don't see how anybody on here can give you a confirmation that your flights/dates will be good.
Have you tried proactively re-booking, given the circumstances, with AA/BA?