Where to switch from TB
Aug 21, 2017, 7:29 am
#16
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PSA: they will still only consider Status Match for customers living in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Poland, Netherlands and USA.
(also, they won't match WestJet, if anyone else was thinking about it..)
(also, they won't match WestJet, if anyone else was thinking about it..)
Aug 21, 2017, 11:16 am
#17
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For the USA to work, you must hold a booking that is operated by AB in order to be considered for the match.
Aug 22, 2017, 2:33 am
#18
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So I get that we will have to wait and see how the talks between AB, EY, etc will play out in the coming days/weeks/months but I don't see it making much sense for EY Guest to absorb all the current Topbonus members.
Assuming AB ceases to exist, wouldn't it be more beneficial for them to sell this data (Topbonus members) to another airline, an airline that would actual serve the majority of where the Topbonus members reside (Germany).
Sure EY does service Germany with flights to the middle east and Asia but you aren't going to fly them anywhere else in Europe? I personally wouldn't stick around if I was absorbed into EY Guest.
To me, it would be more profitable to sell the members over to BA, LH, KLM, AF, etc.
Assuming AB ceases to exist, wouldn't it be more beneficial for them to sell this data (Topbonus members) to another airline, an airline that would actual serve the majority of where the Topbonus members reside (Germany).
Sure EY does service Germany with flights to the middle east and Asia but you aren't going to fly them anywhere else in Europe? I personally wouldn't stick around if I was absorbed into EY Guest.
To me, it would be more profitable to sell the members over to BA, LH, KLM, AF, etc.
Aug 22, 2017, 2:38 am
#19
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Are AB elites HVCs on average?
Aug 23, 2017, 4:27 am
#20
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That was the same question that could have been asked of Ansett, Canadair, Malev, BMI and Varig elites. It's not been a rare instance for elites in the programs of a disappearing carrier in major alliance to end up being able to use the defunct carrier's elite status cards for a status match elsewhere.
Aug 23, 2017, 4:41 am
#21
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I think the question was whether there is sufficient value so that another carrier would care to buy the entire program as a whole. This is much less likely than carriers trying to fish relevant members one-by-one through a status match. The latter is likely to happen (although I cannot see an airline that could offer me a status match and be a good replacement for AB, right now - with my travel patterns).
Aug 25, 2017, 1:51 am
#22
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Originally Posted by airberlin
Der Status Match ist auf die Länder Deutschland, Österreich, Schweiz, Schweden, Dänemark, Finnland, Norwegen sowie USA begrenzt.
Aug 25, 2017, 1:54 am
#23
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I think the question was whether there is sufficient value so that another carrier would care to buy the entire program as a whole. This is much less likely than carriers trying to fish relevant members one-by-one through a status match. The latter is likely to happen (although I cannot see an airline that could offer me a status match and be a good replacement for AB, right now - with my travel patterns).
If anyone buys airberlin, then they may be interested in topbonus - but only if they don't already have an FFP of their own.
Aug 25, 2017, 2:17 am
#24
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From one of the other threads http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/airbe...post28733625B]
topbonus is being liquidated: http://www.handelsblatt.com/unterneh.../20234012.html
Kunden, die ihre Bonusmeilen beim Vielfliegerprogramm Topbonus noch nicht eingelöst haben, gehen nach Kebekus' Angaben leer aus. „Das Programm wurde gestoppt.“ Bei Topbonus zeichne sich ebenfalls eine Insolvenz ab.
Berliner Zeitung reports topbonus will file for insolvency today: http://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/air-b...t-insolvenz-an
Aug 25, 2017, 4:18 am
#25
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Sorry, I should have written my post in the other thread here, probably.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28733833-post16.html
I really wonder what use the American Airlines FFP would be to people like me who fly mostly intra-Europe with a couple of US trips a year. I've never joined a FFP which is completely outside the region I live and work in. For redemptions within Europe, BAEC Avios FFP was king. I saved a lot of money with last minute AB redemptions. And Reward Flight Saver awards on BA with only GBP35 tax are still a good deal. I don't think AA can compete here.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28733833-post16.html
I really wonder what use the American Airlines FFP would be to people like me who fly mostly intra-Europe with a couple of US trips a year. I've never joined a FFP which is completely outside the region I live and work in. For redemptions within Europe, BAEC Avios FFP was king. I saved a lot of money with last minute AB redemptions. And Reward Flight Saver awards on BA with only GBP35 tax are still a good deal. I don't think AA can compete here.
Aug 30, 2017, 8:12 am
#26
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Berlin DE
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We can hope that BAEC will offer a status match for TopBonus status holders in order to scoop up their EMEA customers. Or that LH will decide to jump in. But then again why should they as we will probably be forced use them for the German market anyway...
