RANT: The TXL Baggie Scam
#31
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I always though all liquids had to be in the one baggie? In the US, it's SOP (standard operating procedure). I always carry extra, just in case.
Just curious, when did this policy become the norm? Was it because of the "shoe bomber"?
Just curious, when did this policy become the norm? Was it because of the "shoe bomber"?
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jup, and that's it where it becomes "idiotic and brainless", i'm not talking about bringing in some 15 tubes where it is obviously hard to tell if it's more than 1 l or not. anyway, as already said, i never had any issues putting my single 100 ml tube in the tray without the stupid bag, besides TXL. The first time I was pretty surprised so i told the security guy that this must be one of the dumbest things i had to do in my life (yeah, i got lucky, i guess ) and he just told me "it's the rules" - yeah, germans stick to their rules, don't they?
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jup, and that's it where it becomes "idiotic and brainless", i'm not talking about bringing in some 15 tubes where it is obviously hard to tell if it's more than 1 l or not. anyway, as already said, i never had any issues putting my single 100 ml tube in the tray without the stupid bag, besides TXL. The first time I was pretty surprised so i told the security guy that this must be one of the dumbest things i had to do in my life (yeah, i got lucky, i guess ) and he just told me "it's the rules" - yeah, germans stick to their rules, don't they?
#34
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I have been through many different airports on five continents this year and NEVER had to get my toiletries out of where they belong and into one of these silly baggies, except at TXL (regularly) and FRA (once). Not even security at LHR cares about them any more in my experience.
I understand that people may feel it is a bit unnecessary for small amount, but like me using LHR as main airport, I just accept it is part of my travel routine.
I am now so used to this zip bag practice, I always pick up an extra when flying out from LHR for my return journey.
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We do agree in one respect though: By now this really is a stupid thread.
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Add the fact that the rant should have been posted in the "Practical Travel Safety and Security Issues" forum since it's not AB specific.
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And that they continue to abide by the rules. After flying from TXL "a few times in the recent weeks", the OP is ranting about the baggie machine failing to work on repeat occasions. One would think that the OP would figure out that he needs a baggie, and would make sure to have one on subsequent visit. Obviously too much to ask for...
Add the fact that the rant should have been posted in the "Practical Travel Safety and Security Issues" forum since it's not AB specific.
Add the fact that the rant should have been posted in the "Practical Travel Safety and Security Issues" forum since it's not AB specific.
Last edited by blue2002; Nov 9, 2015 at 2:37 am
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Folks, one rule that we have to follow in this forum: no discussions and comments on each others - just discussing the topic please.
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#41
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I wonder if you would have had the balls to play the same game in the US. The entire thing is based on the 2006 European regulation limiting the quantity of liquids in carry-on baggage applies to all flights within the EU. It is as it is and I expect my fellow passengers to follow that rule. People not following such rule create delays for everybody else and people seeing a necessity to argue with these poorly paid agents create even more delays. And by the way: It is not us Germans sticking to our rules but us Germans sticking to Brusssel's rules
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I fully agree it is stupid. I however further agree that this is EU law. There are plenty of stupid laws all over the world. I will, however, not complain on the spot if these stupid laws are enforced. such complains result in nothing but discomfort for everybody.
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I lived in the UAE and followed all such stupid rules. Anybody without a UAE passport felt consequences for not following the rules. Anybody with a UAE passport was frequently by far more relaxed or arrogant if it came to the rules. This was at least my humble experience.
In our country, however, fortunately the rule of law is valid for everybody. And this constitutes a vital part of our society.
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I always thought that you home base AUH is one of the locations being most strict on following rules - might these rules be as stupid as they can be from a European's perspective.
I lived in the UAE and followed all such stupid rules. Anybody without a UAE passport felt consequences for not following the rules. Anybody with a UAE passport was frequently by far more relaxed or arrogant if it came to the rules. This was at least my humble experience.
In our country, however, fortunately the rule of law is valid for everybody. And this constitutes a vital part of our society.
I lived in the UAE and followed all such stupid rules. Anybody without a UAE passport felt consequences for not following the rules. Anybody with a UAE passport was frequently by far more relaxed or arrogant if it came to the rules. This was at least my humble experience.
In our country, however, fortunately the rule of law is valid for everybody. And this constitutes a vital part of our society.
Anyway, back to Europe: I already asked once, but perhaps you missed the post. As a lawyer, you should have easier access (as in: yes, the internet is accessible to all, but perhaps you know better where to look, given your profession) to the EU regulation you reference. Can you post a link to it? It would be educational to many.
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I don't want to waste too much time on this but this webpage can be a start for your own search.
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens...y/index_en.htm
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens...y/index_en.htm