YYZ-AKL PE seats
#16
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I flew PE on the 777-200 to Vancouver and then the 777-300 ex LAX a couple of weeks ago. I would go for the 200 over the "space seat". The space seat is great for lounging, eating etc but not nearly as good for sleeping--which is always my priority on long overnight flights. Give me a proper leg rest over a tiny bean bag on the floor every time.
#17
Join Date: Mar 2001
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I totally agree. I don't like the space seat much - it's fine on LHR-LAX where I don't tend to sleep; but on the other sectors it sucks. I would take the 77E over it at this point as I just can't sleep in it (and I write this having just slept a couple hours on US Airways in Y).
I'm really not good at sleeping in Y seats, but I slept pretty well in the SpaceSeat (though I did have to wriggle around a fair bit and switch positions) - admittedly with the help of booze and Xanax.
What is it about the SpaceSeat that you find so utterly non-conducive to sleep?
#18
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I understand people not necessarily preferring the SpaceSeat to a good conventional PE seat (I think I'm probably in that camp) but I don't understand you finding it harder to sleep than in a poor Y product like US's. There's more room all round and there's more recline (though god knows not as much as one would wish).
I'm really not good at sleeping in Y seats, but I slept pretty well in the SpaceSeat (though I did have to wriggle around a fair bit and switch positions) - admittedly with the help of booze and Xanax.
What is it about the SpaceSeat that you find so utterly non-conducive to sleep?
I'm really not good at sleeping in Y seats, but I slept pretty well in the SpaceSeat (though I did have to wriggle around a fair bit and switch positions) - admittedly with the help of booze and Xanax.
What is it about the SpaceSeat that you find so utterly non-conducive to sleep?
But to sleep? It's the position of the seat, total lack of recline, and for me, no where to comfortably put my legs - the little bean bag does nothing for me; and this is compounded by the rest of the seat - the seat base, angle, positioning, everything. It just doesn't work for me - it's like trying to sleep in my desk chair in the office.
I think I slept about the same amount in 77W LAX-AKL sectors in U and in Y - and I rate the 77W Y experience the single worst trans-pac flight I've ever taken.
#19
Join Date: Mar 2001
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I don't understand it either. I find the SpaceSeat relatively great for working in (although not being square to the table is irritating) and I like the peace and sense of space in the cabin - it's definitely not crowded.
But to sleep? It's the position of the seat, total lack of recline, and for me, no where to comfortably put my legs - the little bean bag does nothing for me; and this is compounded by the rest of the seat - the seat base, angle, positioning, everything. It just doesn't work for me - it's like trying to sleep in my desk chair in the office.
I think I slept about the same amount in 77W LAX-AKL sectors in U and in Y - and I rate the 77W Y experience the single worst trans-pac flight I've ever taken.
But to sleep? It's the position of the seat, total lack of recline, and for me, no where to comfortably put my legs - the little bean bag does nothing for me; and this is compounded by the rest of the seat - the seat base, angle, positioning, everything. It just doesn't work for me - it's like trying to sleep in my desk chair in the office.
I think I slept about the same amount in 77W LAX-AKL sectors in U and in Y - and I rate the 77W Y experience the single worst trans-pac flight I've ever taken.
I completely agree about the beanbag. Useless and long since squashed into compressed uselessness.
#20
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Well I'm 168cm tall. There is no comfortable way to rest my legs--they just reach the floor when fully reclined. Puts pressure on my lower back and shoulders. In a convention Y seat I can sleep much better. Less strain on my back.
I understand people not necessarily preferring the SpaceSeat to a good conventional PE seat (I think I'm probably in that camp) but I don't understand you finding it harder to sleep than in a poor Y product like US's. There's more room all round and there's more recline (though god knows not as much as one would wish).
I'm really not good at sleeping in Y seats, but I slept pretty well in the SpaceSeat (though I did have to wriggle around a fair bit and switch positions) - admittedly with the help of booze and Xanax.
What is it about the SpaceSeat that you find so utterly non-conducive to sleep?
I'm really not good at sleeping in Y seats, but I slept pretty well in the SpaceSeat (though I did have to wriggle around a fair bit and switch positions) - admittedly with the help of booze and Xanax.
What is it about the SpaceSeat that you find so utterly non-conducive to sleep?
#23
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Ok, as promised, I flew in PE LAX-AKL on the 777-300 and here is my review.
I was very comfortable in the PE spaceseat. I slept 6 hrs straight. It is fidgety to setup but once done no prob. The beanbag was too thin but I used two since I had a empty seat next to me. I was originally in the middle seat but since there were some empty seats, I switched to a window with the aisle empty. The middle seats would work the best as a small couch to sleep on if you have no seatmate.
Overall ANZ is far better than NA carriers. The Koru lounge was better incl food and drink offerings. The seats were better, IFE and inflight service was better and the food was better. I flew YYZ-LAX on AC J on a single aisle aircraft (no lie flat seats) and I would rate the ANZ PE better. The only thing better would be a lie flat seat but my budget could not cover it.
I was very comfortable in the PE spaceseat. I slept 6 hrs straight. It is fidgety to setup but once done no prob. The beanbag was too thin but I used two since I had a empty seat next to me. I was originally in the middle seat but since there were some empty seats, I switched to a window with the aisle empty. The middle seats would work the best as a small couch to sleep on if you have no seatmate.
Overall ANZ is far better than NA carriers. The Koru lounge was better incl food and drink offerings. The seats were better, IFE and inflight service was better and the food was better. I flew YYZ-LAX on AC J on a single aisle aircraft (no lie flat seats) and I would rate the ANZ PE better. The only thing better would be a lie flat seat but my budget could not cover it.
#24
Join Date: Jan 2014
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Ok, as promised, I flew in PE LAX-AKL on the 777-300 and here is my review.
I was very comfortable in the PE spaceseat. I slept 6 hrs straight. It is fidgety to setup but once done no prob. The beanbag was too thin but I used two since I had a empty seat next to me. I was originally in the middle seat but since there were some empty seats, I switched to a window with the aisle empty. The middle seats would work the best as a small couch to sleep on if you have no seatmate.
Overall ANZ is far better than NA carriers. The Koru lounge was better incl food and drink offerings. The seats were better, IFE and inflight service was better and the food was better. I flew YYZ-LAX on AC J on a single aisle aircraft (no lie flat seats) and I would rate the ANZ PE better. The only thing better would be a lie flat seat but my budget could not cover it.
I was very comfortable in the PE spaceseat. I slept 6 hrs straight. It is fidgety to setup but once done no prob. The beanbag was too thin but I used two since I had a empty seat next to me. I was originally in the middle seat but since there were some empty seats, I switched to a window with the aisle empty. The middle seats would work the best as a small couch to sleep on if you have no seatmate.
Overall ANZ is far better than NA carriers. The Koru lounge was better incl food and drink offerings. The seats were better, IFE and inflight service was better and the food was better. I flew YYZ-LAX on AC J on a single aisle aircraft (no lie flat seats) and I would rate the ANZ PE better. The only thing better would be a lie flat seat but my budget could not cover it.
#25
Join Date: Feb 2013
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#28
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Right. No business seats on A320. However some AKL-SYD flights are operated with 763, 772, 773 or 789 aircraft - all of which have business class seats.