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Old Dec 8, 2014, 10:50 pm
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Air New Zealand announces two more Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners will be added to its fleet.


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Adds more weight to new destination(s) being actively considered.
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Old Dec 9, 2014, 2:39 pm
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Adds more weight to new destination(s) being actively considered.
Yes but if they are the same cofiguration as current 787-9 then that may give a clue to which destination.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 7:06 pm
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Multiple air deals open NZ skies to world airlines

Talks pave way for new routes to up to 10 nations

New Zealand is finalising a large number of air services deals, which will open up potential new routes around the world.

Last month Ministry of Transport negotiators met international counterparts in Bali, reaching a new deal with China, with up to nine other countries still being considered by the Cabinet and to be announced shortly.

Transport Minister Simon Bridges said while the doubling of allowable services to China was "the most significant" deal to be done, it was part of a bigger story on the strategy. New Zealand wanted to build on the pace and scale of air service agreements and arrangements.

"We'd like to see, a bit like in free trade, a move from the bilateral to the multi-lateral," Bridges said.

"New Zealand has the capacity to show some leadership on that front, moving the world from a complex set of bilateral arrangements to a broader, more simple picture."
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We already know Air NZ is now opening up a potential new route to Argentina (EZE), and rumors still very much alive for a 3rd US destination. Add to that the revival of Beijing-route with a CA alliance... how many more new routes would NZ open up next year?
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 8:45 pm
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There was talk a few years ago of a direct AKL -> JHB flights with the arrival of the 787 and the higher ETOPS for the Indian Ocean which would open the leg up to 2 engines as apparently the route can be flown to comply with ETOPS 330.
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 12:32 pm
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We already know Air NZ is now opening up a potential new route to Argentina (EZE), and rumors still very much alive for a 3rd US destination. Add to that the revival of Beijing-route with a CA alliance... how many more new routes would NZ open up next year?
You mean a 4th US destination? There is already LAX, SFO and HNL.
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 12:37 pm
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There was talk a few years ago of a direct AKL -> JHB flights with the arrival of the 787 and the higher ETOPS for the Indian Ocean which would open the leg up to 2 engines as apparently the route can be flown to comply with ETOPS 330.
I can't see it happening. On great circle distance AKL-JNB is about 10% longer than AKL-YVR but with worse headwinds and the small matter of having ETOPS issues even at 330 minutes. By the time allow for that the flight path becomes even longer, and requires much more fuel at a cost of reduced load of passengers and freight.

Yields wouldn't support it even if it was technically feasible. In any case there are 2 simple alternatives - being AKL-PER-JNB and AKL-SYD-JNB.
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
You mean a 4th US destination? There is already LAX, SFO and HNL.
Yes of course, that and I actually forgotten about HNL! Should've said 3rd "Mainland US" destination.
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Excellent point. Extending the PER segment to JNB probably makes the most sense.

Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
I can't see it happening. On great circle distance AKL-JNB is about 10% longer than AKL-YVR but with worse headwinds and the small matter of having ETOPS issues even at 330 minutes. By the time allow for that the flight path becomes even longer, and requires much more fuel at a cost of reduced load of passengers and freight.

Yields wouldn't support it even if it was technically feasible. In any case there are 2 simple alternatives - being AKL-PER-JNB and AKL-SYD-JNB.
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Old Dec 13, 2014, 12:58 am
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Excellent point. Extending the PER segment to JNB probably makes the most sense.
Why? SA has a perfectly good flight PER-JNB which connects reasonable well with NZ.
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Old Jan 17, 2015, 3:04 pm
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Air NZ passengers get unexpected night in Melbourne

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel...t-in-melbourne

NZ161 from Christchurch to Perth "elected to divert to Melbourne as a precaution after pilots observed an oil indication gauge on the flight-deck".
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...240Z/NZCH/YPPH
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Excellent point. Extending the PER segment to JNB probably makes the most sense.
Sorry, ma puce, I can't see that happening.

Air NZ management have consistently said for the last few years that they have no interest in adding new multi sector flights.

They used to operate an extensive range of such flights but now have eliminated all but two from their network, both special cases : AKL-LAX-LHR where they allegedly make considerable money carrying pax LAX-LHR vv and AKL-RAR-LAX where the second sector is unwritten by the Cook Islands government.
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Originally Posted by kiwiandrew
Sorry, ma puce, I can't see that happening.

Air NZ management have consistently said for the last few years that they have no interest in adding new multi sector flights.

They used to operate an extensive range of such flights but now have eliminated all but two from their network, both special cases : AKL-LAX-LHR where they allegedly make considerable money carrying pax LAX-LHR vv and AKL-RAR-LAX where the second sector is unwritten by the Cook Islands government.
Strictly speaking it is multiple longhaul sectors that NZ doesn`t want to have.
Others that exist now include AKL-SYD-RAR (vv) and NRT-CHC-AKL (that direction only).
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Old Jan 17, 2015, 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Strictly speaking it is multiple longhaul sectors that NZ doesn`t want to have.
Others that exist now include AKL-SYD-RAR (vv) and NRT-CHC-AKL (that direction only).
NRT-CHC-AKL has been canned for this Summer's flights - they're introduced NZ94 that is NRT-CHC and then a reposition to AKL rather than previously where NZ90 was flying via CHC a few times per week to AKL.
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Old Jan 18, 2015, 3:43 am
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Originally Posted by sbiddle
NRT-CHC-AKL has been canned for this Summer's flights - they're introduced NZ94 that is NRT-CHC and then a reposition to AKL rather than previously where NZ90 was flying via CHC a few times per week to AKL.
Is that a recent change?

I was searching for NRT flights a couple of weeks ago and amongst the options was NRT-AKL single flight number via CHC.
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Old Jan 18, 2015, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by kiwiandrew
Sorry, ma puce, I can't see that happening.

Air NZ management have consistently said for the last few years that they have no interest in adding new multi sector flights.

They used to operate an extensive range of such flights but now have eliminated all but two from their network, both special cases : AKL-LAX-LHR where they allegedly make considerable money carrying pax LAX-LHR vv and AKL-RAR-LAX where the second sector is unwritten by the Cook Islands government.
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