New seats for Boeing 777 -200.
Mar 29, 2015, 12:15 am
#166
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Any word on what they're planning on using them for? It would seem logical to just keep them running on holiday routes to HNL and DPS routes where the only people flying at the front of the plane are those using upgrades.
Mar 29, 2015, 12:52 am
#167
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Probably just Sydney to annoy me :P
Mar 29, 2015, 1:25 am
#168
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Qantas 763 we're all very early 90s, compared to NZ. Currently NZ has NCG 1993, NCI 1994, NCJ 1995, NCK 1997, NCL 1997. Which isn't that old if you go by American standards, up until this year US Airways still had 762s in service.
If they are well looked after, and get more upgrades they are still worth another couple of years of service.
NZ's 767s all had upgrades that Qantas didn't do, e.g. the winglets, and other fuel saving methods.
The bins aren't that bad, it's still better than on an full 320
Mar 29, 2015, 1:27 am
#169
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Have you heard any rumours if they will refit these? If not then sydney sounds the perfect spot
I was hoping since they put the dreamliner on medium haul to Perth they might also replace hnl and dps with the 789? Dreams are free....
Mar 29, 2015, 1:52 am
#170
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HNL and DPS both become slightly problematic - there is a big difference in capacity between the 763 and the 789 which would mean a lot of extra seats. With both being tourist markets and using the seats to suit product it simply makes sense to keep the 763 on both.
When the $ finally does tank again against the $US (and we all know that's ultimately a case of it, not when) the HNL market will crash again. Air NZ have only been focussed on it as a destination to ensure Hawaiian didn't gain traction.
When the $ finally does tank again against the $US (and we all know that's ultimately a case of it, not when) the HNL market will crash again. Air NZ have only been focussed on it as a destination to ensure Hawaiian didn't gain traction.
Mar 29, 2015, 3:13 am
#171
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HNL and DPS both become slightly problematic - there is a big difference in capacity between the 763 and the 789 which would mean a lot of extra seats. With both being tourist markets and using the seats to suit product it simply makes sense to keep the 763 on both.
When the $ finally does tank again against the $US (and we all know that's ultimately a case of it, not when) the HNL market will crash again. Air NZ have only been focussed on it as a destination to ensure Hawaiian didn't gain traction.
When the $ finally does tank again against the $US (and we all know that's ultimately a case of it, not when) the HNL market will crash again. Air NZ have only been focussed on it as a destination to ensure Hawaiian didn't gain traction.
Mar 30, 2015, 12:07 pm
#174
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Best to book an 777-300ER flight, which are genrally SFO NZ7/8 and LAX NZ1/2/5/6.
Mar 31, 2015, 4:25 pm
#175
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Also there is a strong rumour that they will be changing the configuration of the A320i soon, no not an AFD joke.
Mar 31, 2015, 5:45 pm
#176
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Then again, now that even VA offers Business class on all the Trans-Tasman flights, perhaps NZ feel they need to realign their product offerings and provide a smoother product transition to new A32x neo with new layout/product.
Apr 1, 2015, 3:10 pm
#177
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Yet Qantas have invested in the cabins of their 744 aircraft to be pleasant.
This doesn't change the fact that the cabins on NZ's 767s are horrendous. I don't care about fuel saving. I do care that NZ are passing off a premium economy seat as business class.I disagree with this.
Apr 1, 2015, 3:20 pm
#178
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Well in economy they are arguably the finest long haul aircraft in the fleet (but having been screwed by NZ twice before with swaps from 777 aircraft when flying biz I agree with you at the front of the cabin).
Apr 1, 2015, 4:54 pm
#179
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This is something I don't think anybody could disagree with! If you have to fly economy on Air NZ, the 767 is the best plane in the fleet to be stuck in for 8+ hours.
Apr 6, 2015, 3:41 am
#180
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I have a theory that the new neo planes are not actually replacing the existing fleet. Virgin has transferred their ex-Pacific Blue plans into the Virgin mainline fleet (with VH rego rather than ZK). I wonder if VA/NZ are planning for VA to exit the TT/Pacific market and for NZ to take over the ex-VA TT/Pacific flights. The changes to the VA operations seem to suggest they have no long term plans to continue operating in the NZ/Pacific market.
Of course there are regulatory issues that would likely prevent this from happening but it does seem like a logical business decision to make...