Help booking CAY-JFK using Flying Blue points: illegal itinerary?
Sep 16, 2017, 12:17 pm
#1
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Help booking CAY-JFK using Flying Blue points: illegal itinerary?
Hi all,
I used the Flying Blue mileage calculator and it verified that I could fly from Cayenne to JFK for 15K Flying Blue points (a sweet spot in the award chart that I'd like to capitalize on).
On the date I wish to fly, CAY-PAP-MIA (Air France, late night arrival) is available, as is MIA-JFK (Delta, early the next morning). However, both the website and the phone operators are only able to book me CAY-ORY-JFK for 55K miles or CAY-PAP-MIA and MIA-JFK as two separate one-ways for 27.5K miles.
Am I trying to book an illegal itinerary? If not, can you suggest how I can get an Air France operator to pair these two legs together in the same itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
I used the Flying Blue mileage calculator and it verified that I could fly from Cayenne to JFK for 15K Flying Blue points (a sweet spot in the award chart that I'd like to capitalize on).
On the date I wish to fly, CAY-PAP-MIA (Air France, late night arrival) is available, as is MIA-JFK (Delta, early the next morning). However, both the website and the phone operators are only able to book me CAY-ORY-JFK for 55K miles or CAY-PAP-MIA and MIA-JFK as two separate one-ways for 27.5K miles.
Am I trying to book an illegal itinerary? If not, can you suggest how I can get an Air France operator to pair these two legs together in the same itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Sep 16, 2017, 9:47 pm
#2
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An update that sheds some further light on this issue, although I still don't understand it at all.
If I try to book a one-way from CAY-JFK on the Air France website using cash, the option via MIA comes up, but is not bookable (error message).
However, if I try to book a round-trip ticket between CAY-JFK, the CAY-MIA-JFK leg *is* bookable as the outbound leg.
Have you ever heard of an itinerary that's illegal as a one-way, but allowable as part of a round trip?
If I try to book a one-way from CAY-JFK on the Air France website using cash, the option via MIA comes up, but is not bookable (error message).
However, if I try to book a round-trip ticket between CAY-JFK, the CAY-MIA-JFK leg *is* bookable as the outbound leg.
Have you ever heard of an itinerary that's illegal as a one-way, but allowable as part of a round trip?
Sep 17, 2017, 2:02 am
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Your itinerary is not illegal at all. However, I think it would be hardly bookable online.
You can reach a Flying Blue agent using one of the few phone numbers.
My advise would be to call a European number to avoid a Delta agent.
You can reach a Flying Blue agent using one of the few phone numbers.
My advise would be to call a European number to avoid a Delta agent.
Sep 17, 2017, 5:11 am
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Hi all,
On the date I wish to fly, CAY-PAP-MIA (Air France, late night arrival) is available, as is MIA-JFK (Delta, early the next morning).
Am I trying to book an illegal itinerary? If not, can you suggest how I can get an Air France operator to pair these two legs together in the same itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
On the date I wish to fly, CAY-PAP-MIA (Air France, late night arrival) is available, as is MIA-JFK (Delta, early the next morning).
Am I trying to book an illegal itinerary? If not, can you suggest how I can get an Air France operator to pair these two legs together in the same itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
I'd try the European call centre again, but looks like that tickets for AF606 can be issued to MIA only. Weird.
Sep 20, 2017, 4:15 am
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Married segments logic doesn't apply when a ticket involves various airlines with their separate award inventory. The agents just add flights manually and have to price a ticket manually based on an origin and a destination (+ common sense with routing of course).
There can't be more than 3 flights in one-way award ticket.
There can't be more than 24 hours connection in any airport.
grlmopz, your routing seems fine to me. It also looks like it should be bookable. Just call FlyingBlue in France and feed them flight numbers you want to be booked on. Maybe you would need to be a bit persuasive and ask an agent to check with a supervisor (should help).
There can't be more than 3 flights in one-way award ticket.
There can't be more than 24 hours connection in any airport.
grlmopz, your routing seems fine to me. It also looks like it should be bookable. Just call FlyingBlue in France and feed them flight numbers you want to be booked on. Maybe you would need to be a bit persuasive and ask an agent to check with a supervisor (should help).
Sep 20, 2017, 5:31 am
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Hi
i think in your case they didnt setup such thing in their system , because PTP is not a transit airport for AF , or they didnt setup FB prices for such route
If you can make a simulation and try to book them as separate
Anyway let us know what will be the outcome
i think in your case they didnt setup such thing in their system , because PTP is not a transit airport for AF , or they didnt setup FB prices for such route
If you can make a simulation and try to book them as separate
Anyway let us know what will be the outcome
Oct 23, 2017, 3:18 am
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In this case it can explain the story
Your CAY-MIA is direct or you need to stop in PTP ? Otherwise you could try CAY-PTP-ATL and then book a cheap ATL-JFK
Oct 23, 2017, 2:15 pm
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Oct 24, 2017, 6:37 am
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YUL-ATL-PTP-CAY. Maybe try starting point from Canada and it may work....
But that was a paid ticket and I am not sure if DL will release any empty seats on the YUL-ATL route....