Voucher Instead of Cash for EC261 Compensation
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Voucher Instead of Cash for EC261 Compensation
I see that both KLM and AF have the option of receiving an 800 Euro non-refundable "transportation credit voucher" in lieu of the 600 Euro cash payment.
Anyone know where I can find the terms of this voucher? I have an EC 261 situation, and would consider a credit voucher, depending upon its terms (e.g., can I use it to book online, if the fare is less than 800 EUR can I use the residual value on another flight, does the credit have an expiration date, can it be used for a different passenger than the one receiving the compensation?)
While it seems logical that if one is giving up a legal right to 600 Euro for something else, that the terms of this "something else" should be disclosed as part of the transaction - but I know in the airline world this is not how things always work.
Anyone know where I can find the terms of this voucher? I have an EC 261 situation, and would consider a credit voucher, depending upon its terms (e.g., can I use it to book online, if the fare is less than 800 EUR can I use the residual value on another flight, does the credit have an expiration date, can it be used for a different passenger than the one receiving the compensation?)
While it seems logical that if one is giving up a legal right to 600 Euro for something else, that the terms of this "something else" should be disclosed as part of the transaction - but I know in the airline world this is not how things always work.
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- yes
- yes
- yes (same expiry date for the residual credit as the original credit, i.e. 1 year)
- no, not anymore since march
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I see that both KLM and AF have the option of receiving an 800 Euro non-refundable "transportation credit voucher" in lieu of the 600 Euro cash payment.
Anyone know where I can find the terms of this voucher? I have an EC 261 situation, and would consider a credit voucher, depending upon its terms (e.g., can I use it to book online, if the fare is less than 800 EUR can I use the residual value on another flight, does the credit have an expiration date, can it be used for a different passenger than the one receiving the compensation?)
While it seems logical that if one is giving up a legal right to 600 Euro for something else, that the terms of this "something else" should be disclosed as part of the transaction - but I know in the airline world this is not how things always work.
Anyone know where I can find the terms of this voucher? I have an EC 261 situation, and would consider a credit voucher, depending upon its terms (e.g., can I use it to book online, if the fare is less than 800 EUR can I use the residual value on another flight, does the credit have an expiration date, can it be used for a different passenger than the one receiving the compensation?)
While it seems logical that if one is giving up a legal right to 600 Euro for something else, that the terms of this "something else" should be disclosed as part of the transaction - but I know in the airline world this is not how things always work.
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I stumbled upon your thread after originally posting mine.
I'm contemplating taking the cash for my son's ticket as he travels less than I do - and the credit for myself.
I suppose given the one year limit on the voucher, it pays to wait a while to submit the claim unless one already has a trip contemplated.
I'm contemplating taking the cash for my son's ticket as he travels less than I do - and the credit for myself.
I suppose given the one year limit on the voucher, it pays to wait a while to submit the claim unless one already has a trip contemplated.
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if the ticket price is less than 800 you cannot use it online i think because online it will cancel the remaining part. At least that's what i was told so i never tried. when i had a ticket that costs less the voucher's value i called to book and they created a new voucher with the remaining value. What is interesting is that the new voucher had again one new year of validity.
For my case i had voucher for a non working IFE in Feb 2016, i used half of it in September 2016, the other half has now a validity until September 2017.
For my case i had voucher for a non working IFE in Feb 2016, i used half of it in September 2016, the other half has now a validity until September 2017.
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These are a win-win for the regular traveler. If you do not contemplate the need for travel within the year, waiting to file your claim until you are within the year is a stroke of brilliance.
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Well, that then brings up the question - how long from time of claim to issuance of voucher?
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Voucher Valid in Which Airlines?
I'm assuming the voucher is valid for any flights bookable with a KLM or Air France flight number, regardless of the operating carrier?
How about flights booked with AZ or DL flight numbers?
How about flights booked with AZ or DL flight numbers?
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Actually it seems it depends on the country. It seems to range from 2-10 years. For UK it is 6 years.
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I would seriously advise not to accept such vouchers.
The voucher can only redeemed with the issueing airline.
These vouchers are useless, if you catch a good on a codeshare (operated by the issueing airline, but sold by another airline) or if a consolidator (via an OTA) sells a good fare. Airline-owned booking sites do not see all available fares (which a Kayak meta search machine can see).
It's not 100% clear whether a phone booking will be waived if the voucher cannot be redeemed online.
A EUR 600 cash payment does not expire, can be booked for other people, can be used for other airlines (and codeshares) ..... etc etc
The voucher can only redeemed with the issueing airline.
These vouchers are useless, if you catch a good on a codeshare (operated by the issueing airline, but sold by another airline) or if a consolidator (via an OTA) sells a good fare. Airline-owned booking sites do not see all available fares (which a Kayak meta search machine can see).
It's not 100% clear whether a phone booking will be waived if the voucher cannot be redeemed online.
A EUR 600 cash payment does not expire, can be booked for other people, can be used for other airlines (and codeshares) ..... etc etc
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I would seriously advise not to accept such vouchers.
The voucher can only redeemed with the issueing airline.
These vouchers are useless, if you catch a good on a codeshare (operated by the issueing airline, but sold by another airline) or if a consolidator (via an OTA) sells a good fare. Airline-owned booking sites do not see all available fares (which a Kayak meta search machine can see).
It's not 100% clear whether a phone booking will be waived if the voucher cannot be redeemed online.
A EUR 600 cash payment does not expire, can be booked for other people, can be used for other airlines (and codeshares) ..... etc etc
The voucher can only redeemed with the issueing airline.
These vouchers are useless, if you catch a good on a codeshare (operated by the issueing airline, but sold by another airline) or if a consolidator (via an OTA) sells a good fare. Airline-owned booking sites do not see all available fares (which a Kayak meta search machine can see).
It's not 100% clear whether a phone booking will be waived if the voucher cannot be redeemed online.
A EUR 600 cash payment does not expire, can be booked for other people, can be used for other airlines (and codeshares) ..... etc etc
My mother and father for example were delayed last year because of mx in HKG and, already knowing they were going to go to back a few months later for a cruise but not having bought tickets for that yet, happily took the €800 voucher instead which covered the entire flight for both of them.
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EUR 600 can be invested in stock which will grow in value over time and permit one to retire a very wealthy person if one is smart enough.
But, that is not the point.
For those who travel, know how to read the terms & conditions of a voucher (or other document) and understand their limitations, the variance represents very real value.
Whether the difference between the voucher and cash amount represents value to any given individual is a matter of personal travel habits and preference.
Rather than advising others to do or not do what I would do, I would advise others to consider the costs & benefits.
But, that is not the point.
For those who travel, know how to read the terms & conditions of a voucher (or other document) and understand their limitations, the variance represents very real value.
Whether the difference between the voucher and cash amount represents value to any given individual is a matter of personal travel habits and preference.
Rather than advising others to do or not do what I would do, I would advise others to consider the costs & benefits.
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I would seriously advise not to accept such vouchers.
The voucher can only redeemed with the issueing airline.
These vouchers are useless, if you catch a good on a codeshare (operated by the issueing airline, but sold by another airline) or if a consolidator (via an OTA) sells a good fare. Airline-owned booking sites do not see all available fares (which a Kayak meta search machine can see).
It's not 100% clear whether a phone booking will be waived if the voucher cannot be redeemed online.
A EUR 600 cash payment does not expire, can be booked for other people, can be used for other airlines (and codeshares) ..... etc etc
The voucher can only redeemed with the issueing airline.
These vouchers are useless, if you catch a good on a codeshare (operated by the issueing airline, but sold by another airline) or if a consolidator (via an OTA) sells a good fare. Airline-owned booking sites do not see all available fares (which a Kayak meta search machine can see).
It's not 100% clear whether a phone booking will be waived if the voucher cannot be redeemed online.
A EUR 600 cash payment does not expire, can be booked for other people, can be used for other airlines (and codeshares) ..... etc etc
On the other hand I (I'm not the OP though) would accept a voucher as usually AF/KL offer good rates for my favorite destinations.
Apart from that, even if I know it's almost same, to me, if I receive a 600 compensation, I will be happy as I got 600 for free in my account but as I love to travel I know for sure I want to spend that extra 600 on buying a flight. When I buy the flight, I will be "sad" as I will be thinking I just spent 600 from my own money. However, if I decide to just accept the voucher, I won't feel "bad" when I use it to buy a flight because that money was never mine.
I know, I know, this is just psychological but I now MY mind would be like that.