Flight starting at ZYR with train to AMS - stamped train ticket
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Flight starting at ZYR with train to AMS - stamped train ticket
I have a KLM ticket originating from Brussels South train station (ZYR), where the first segment is operated by train to AMS. I expected that I will need to check in at ZYR and planned accordingly, even though going to Brussels is a detour. This is certainly the case when the first segment is ZYR - CDG, where there's an Air France desk at the station.
However, I just found out that the procedure is different when the first leg is ZYR - AMS. According to the KLM website, I will pick up my train ticket at the Departure Today zone. The website then says:
"Save your stamped train ticket: if you have a flight after having travelled part of the way by train, you will have to present your train ticket at the check-in desk at the airport."
https://www.klm.com/travel/nl_en/pla...cket/index.htm
Now, this suggests that if I check in online and travel with cabin baggage only, I won't come across any agents to actually check my stamped train ticket - so I could go directly to AMS without taking the train from ZYR first. Or will they check the train ticket at the gate? Has anyone done this before?
However, I just found out that the procedure is different when the first leg is ZYR - AMS. According to the KLM website, I will pick up my train ticket at the Departure Today zone. The website then says:
"Save your stamped train ticket: if you have a flight after having travelled part of the way by train, you will have to present your train ticket at the check-in desk at the airport."
https://www.klm.com/travel/nl_en/pla...cket/index.htm
Now, this suggests that if I check in online and travel with cabin baggage only, I won't come across any agents to actually check my stamped train ticket - so I could go directly to AMS without taking the train from ZYR first. Or will they check the train ticket at the gate? Has anyone done this before?
Last edited by Myyra; Apr 1, 2015 at 10:09 am
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I believe such an itinerary does not allow OLCI in the first place.
Even if you manage to OLCI, I would not suggest you risk it. My experience (although solely based on ZWE) is that your train ticket is only issued when you visit the counter; and if you no show, the system will have no record of your train ticket ever being issued.
OTOH I always skip the AMS-ZWE leg without problem (although a retro-claim is needed for the miles to post).
Even if you manage to OLCI, I would not suggest you risk it. My experience (although solely based on ZWE) is that your train ticket is only issued when you visit the counter; and if you no show, the system will have no record of your train ticket ever being issued.
OTOH I always skip the AMS-ZWE leg without problem (although a retro-claim is needed for the miles to post).
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OK, I've completed the trip and here's what happened:
My itinerary was ZYR - AMS - NBO. I could online check-in for AMS-NBO, but not for ZYR - AMS.
I collected my train ticket at the train ticket desk at Brussels-Midi. This is different than taking the train ZYR - CDG, in which case tickets are collected at AF's desk at Brussels-Midi.
I had no checked luggage. At AMS, I went straight to the gate. The agents there checked my AMS - NBO boarding pass, and didn't ask to see the train ticket as proof of having originated the journey at ZYR. This means that in this instance, I would be able to originate my journey at AMS, without taking the train from Brussels. Of course it depends on the diligence of the gate agent.
My itinerary was ZYR - AMS - NBO. I could online check-in for AMS-NBO, but not for ZYR - AMS.
I collected my train ticket at the train ticket desk at Brussels-Midi. This is different than taking the train ZYR - CDG, in which case tickets are collected at AF's desk at Brussels-Midi.
I had no checked luggage. At AMS, I went straight to the gate. The agents there checked my AMS - NBO boarding pass, and didn't ask to see the train ticket as proof of having originated the journey at ZYR. This means that in this instance, I would be able to originate my journey at AMS, without taking the train from Brussels. Of course it depends on the diligence of the gate agent.
Last edited by Myyra; Apr 15, 2015 at 4:08 am
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The agents there checked online my AMS - NBO boarding pass, and didn't ask to see the train ticket as proof of having originated the journey at ZYR. This means that in this instance, I would be able to originate my journey at AMS, without taking the train from Brussels. Of course it depends on the diligence of the gate agent.
I'm surprised that you were able to check in online. But having a boarding pass does not necessarily mean that it will scan correctly at the gate, or that you will indeed be allowed to travel.
To anyone else reading this: Don't expect to be able to turn up at AMS on the day and fly without having first collected your train ticket at ZYR. Chances are that it won't work for you.
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KLM's own website says: "Save your stamped train ticket: if you have a flight after having travelled part of the way by train, you will have to present your train ticket at the check-in desk at the airport."
Again, it's different when traveling by train from Brussels to Paris CDG, in which case it's necessary to check in at Air France's desk at Brussels Midi.
I'm not saying that this will always work and probably wouldn't risk losing my flight - just reporting my experience.
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Indeed, nowadays you can only pick up the ticket on the day of departure.
I did find out recently that an Air-rail ticket allows you to take an earlier train free of charge, you only have to ask the conductor. If there are no seats, you have to stand (which is not too bad for the 55 mins trip).
I did find out recently that an Air-rail ticket allows you to take an earlier train free of charge, you only have to ask the conductor. If there are no seats, you have to stand (which is not too bad for the 55 mins trip).
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Indeed, nowadays you can only pick up the ticket on the day of departure.
I did find out recently that an Air-rail ticket allows you to take an earlier train free of charge, you only have to ask the conductor. If there are no seats, you have to stand (which is not too bad for the 55 mins trip).
I did find out recently that an Air-rail ticket allows you to take an earlier train free of charge, you only have to ask the conductor. If there are no seats, you have to stand (which is not too bad for the 55 mins trip).