stimpy

A very important detail that needs to be answered. Will I get 30,000 miles when they charge that first €570 annual fee?

Gajan

I just phoned American Express and was told that there would be an transition phase for current card members. She could not tell me if the transition phase would end 31.12.2011 or after that but would look it up and e-mail me the answer on Wednesday.

I will post the update when I receive it.

kevinflyaway

It seems that the silver card is actually 10euro's cheaper, but you get less miles. The Gold Card for me would be ok and you get the segments. I think for dutch cardholders which don't spend to much money on actual flying is better! At least for me....can I get it for this year? Then I don't have to do a 3 segment run?!

Also what happend to PLUS OPTION

Baseleg79

I just contacted Amex NL as well and they told me that there might be a special offer for excisting card members. They obviously can't just give you another card. They'll have to ask if you are ok with a new card and to make that decision easier they'll probably offer excisting customers 'something'....but what? Have French FB Amex holders been offered 'something' to be loyal to Amex and the FB cc? And will Dutch members see the same offer, if there is any!?

Gajan

Yes, but once your card expires, reset your level and credit miles according to the new scheme there is nothing you can do: either take the new offer or leave it.

Maybe "the special offer" is the transition phase I was told about?

The old situation has gone, new situation here to stay.

For people who actually got the 2 miles per Euro spent this is a bad deal.

ITravelElite

The cards are online:

http://www.americanexpress.com/nethe...fbplatinumcard

kevinflyaway

Yes... I just realised I get the 2 miles per Euro and just spend over 300.000 this year on tickets, so need to save up again....

Meneer Guggenheimer

Hmmm, this is better?

kevinflyaway

Just called AMEX. The AMEX card will actually be parted from the FB card. This will mean everybody gets a new FB card in september and all cards from AMEX will be replaced by november.

All cards will be turned into Silver Card, unless asked for different card. All cards will be turned before november 18.

I told AMEX we have a contract with a terms&conditions which stated 2 miles earned per Euro for spending more then E12.500 (or something like that) and wanted to know how AMEX would compensate me. She told KLM and AMEX made a new agreement, mostly from KL side.

I told her to bad, but I shouldn't be the victim She offered 10.000 miles if I took a Gold card. I told her sale was at 20.000 miles so I should at least get that and compensation for the 2 miles per Euro spend I missed for the last 2 months (december spending, that would be at least another 5000 miles)

She will call me back...curious

IFY, the new card will allow to move FB miles from your account to another cardholder. For one month you can get the FB miles credited to the account of your spouse for instance, instead of only your own FB account.

IFY2, segments would count for this year if you renew the card before november 18.

Gajan

Did she say anything about a transition phase, i.e. status for sub-card holders for 1 year?

kevinflyaway

No...she wasn't really prepared for all my questions At one point she asked 'did you recieve the letter already? ahum?!'

I didn't ask that question, since I don't get status. She did tell me all cards will be replaced before november 18. Same time as in France.

Gajan

Same here yesterday. You should receive a letter/e-mail today.

KLflyerRalph

What's the Share and Fly benefit? Will it be possible to transfer miles from different accounts?

kevinflyaway

Thats what she told. If you your spouse is in need of miles, you have the option to credit the FB miles earned in a particular month to your spouse's FB instead of your own.

More is told in the letter we should recieve.

I'm just curious what they are going to offer for the 2 miles per Euro spend policy. Everytime so far I pointed them out that something isn't normal and asked for compensation, I got a fair amount of miles in return.

Xandrios

Wow the card took a bad hit indeed! Currently I get 2-4 miles per euro spent...and that will go down to 1-1.5? Plus my gf would have to give up her partner card? ..very bad.

What happened to the plus option, is that still offered? The 'inconveniences' insurance part especially?