March 18th-20th - planned AF flight attendants strike
Mar 7, 2017, 7:32 am
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March 18th-20th - planned AF flight attendants strike
Another strike planned by AF FAs on 18-20 March.
No idea if it will materialize or be extensive.
No idea if it will materialize or be extensive.
Mar 13, 2017, 6:50 am
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Mar 13, 2017, 7:21 am
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Delta has posted a travel waiver, though I don't see one for AF.
Mar 13, 2017, 1:48 pm
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I am on a flight on Air France SFO->CDG on 3/18.
If this strike happens, what does AF usually do? Do they usually cancel their local flights but keep the long haul flights?
Since it says that I can change my flight with no penalty, I took a look online and it looks like if I want to travel on 3/17 then there's a fare difference. I don't know if I'm looking at it correctly but it looks like I may have to pay a lot more (~$4k) to make this change because of a fare change. I am booked in premium economy going there and business coming back. My total ticket price was ~$4k. It's not really clear when I look to change whether it's an additional $4k or whether the price is the same as what I already paid. In any case, there are no nonstops though so I'd have to stop somewhere.
Do any of you experts have any insight into what has happened in the past in these situations?
If this strike happens, what does AF usually do? Do they usually cancel their local flights but keep the long haul flights?
Since it says that I can change my flight with no penalty, I took a look online and it looks like if I want to travel on 3/17 then there's a fare difference. I don't know if I'm looking at it correctly but it looks like I may have to pay a lot more (~$4k) to make this change because of a fare change. I am booked in premium economy going there and business coming back. My total ticket price was ~$4k. It's not really clear when I look to change whether it's an additional $4k or whether the price is the same as what I already paid. In any case, there are no nonstops though so I'd have to stop somewhere.
Do any of you experts have any insight into what has happened in the past in these situations?
Mar 13, 2017, 4:14 pm
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I am on a flight on Air France SFO->CDG on 3/18.
If this strike happens, what does AF usually do? Do they usually cancel their local flights but keep the long haul flights?
Since it says that I can change my flight with no penalty, I took a look online and it looks like if I want to travel on 3/17 then there's a fare difference. I don't know if I'm looking at it correctly but it looks like I may have to pay a lot more (~$4k) to make this change because of a fare change. I am booked in premium economy going there and business coming back. My total ticket price was ~$4k. It's not really clear when I look to change whether it's an additional $4k or whether the price is the same as what I already paid. In any case, there are no nonstops though so I'd have to stop somewhere.
Do any of you experts have any insight into what has happened in the past in these situations?
If this strike happens, what does AF usually do? Do they usually cancel their local flights but keep the long haul flights?
Since it says that I can change my flight with no penalty, I took a look online and it looks like if I want to travel on 3/17 then there's a fare difference. I don't know if I'm looking at it correctly but it looks like I may have to pay a lot more (~$4k) to make this change because of a fare change. I am booked in premium economy going there and business coming back. My total ticket price was ~$4k. It's not really clear when I look to change whether it's an additional $4k or whether the price is the same as what I already paid. In any case, there are no nonstops though so I'd have to stop somewhere.
Do any of you experts have any insight into what has happened in the past in these situations?
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Mar 13, 2017, 6:01 pm
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I am on a flight on Air France SFO->CDG on 3/18.
If this strike happens, what does AF usually do? Do they usually cancel their local flights but keep the long haul flights?
Since it says that I can change my flight with no penalty, I took a look online and it looks like if I want to travel on 3/17 then there's a fare difference. I don't know if I'm looking at it correctly but it looks like I may have to pay a lot more (~$4k) to make this change because of a fare change. I am booked in premium economy going there and business coming back. My total ticket price was ~$4k. It's not really clear when I look to change whether it's an additional $4k or whether the price is the same as what I already paid. In any case, there are no nonstops though so I'd have to stop somewhere.
Do any of you experts have any insight into what has happened in the past in these situations?
If this strike happens, what does AF usually do? Do they usually cancel their local flights but keep the long haul flights?
Since it says that I can change my flight with no penalty, I took a look online and it looks like if I want to travel on 3/17 then there's a fare difference. I don't know if I'm looking at it correctly but it looks like I may have to pay a lot more (~$4k) to make this change because of a fare change. I am booked in premium economy going there and business coming back. My total ticket price was ~$4k. It's not really clear when I look to change whether it's an additional $4k or whether the price is the same as what I already paid. In any case, there are no nonstops though so I'd have to stop somewhere.
Do any of you experts have any insight into what has happened in the past in these situations?
Mar 13, 2017, 9:44 pm
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Or maybe I'm doing something wrong...
It wants to charge me for the fare change (the part that is $4k or $12k) but it is waiving the change fee.
Mar 14, 2017, 2:59 am
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Mar 14, 2017, 7:22 am
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ARGHHHHHHHHH
I am flying from GRU to HKG. I was due to leave on the 19th.
Irony: left LH/LX for AF/KLM again because of the bloody strikes!
Now I have to go 3 days earlier, and could only be booked on GRU-CDG-AMS-HKG in J.
I have to pay from my own pocket 3 extra hotel nights in HKG. AF Brazil told me I am more than welcome to file a Costumer Service Complaint. Will it yield ANY results at all? Not the money itself, but maybe something as a "token of appreciation and understanding"?
I am flying from GRU to HKG. I was due to leave on the 19th.
Irony: left LH/LX for AF/KLM again because of the bloody strikes!
Now I have to go 3 days earlier, and could only be booked on GRU-CDG-AMS-HKG in J.
I have to pay from my own pocket 3 extra hotel nights in HKG. AF Brazil told me I am more than welcome to file a Costumer Service Complaint. Will it yield ANY results at all? Not the money itself, but maybe something as a "token of appreciation and understanding"?
Mar 14, 2017, 7:28 am
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ARGHHHHHHHHH
I am flying from GRU to HKG. I was due to leave on the 19th.
Irony: left LH/LX for AF/KLM again because of the bloody strikes!
Now I have to go 3 days earlier, and could only be booked on GRU-CDG-AMS-HKG in J.
I have to pay from my own pocket 3 extra hotel nights in HKG. AF Brazil told me I am more than welcome to file a Costumer Service Complaint. Will it yield ANY results at all? Not the money itself, but maybe something as a "token of appreciation and understanding"?
I am flying from GRU to HKG. I was due to leave on the 19th.
Irony: left LH/LX for AF/KLM again because of the bloody strikes!
Now I have to go 3 days earlier, and could only be booked on GRU-CDG-AMS-HKG in J.
I have to pay from my own pocket 3 extra hotel nights in HKG. AF Brazil told me I am more than welcome to file a Costumer Service Complaint. Will it yield ANY results at all? Not the money itself, but maybe something as a "token of appreciation and understanding"?
Mar 14, 2017, 8:53 am
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In these cases, is AF good about booking onto partner flights or even non-partners if there is availability? I'm booked for the 20th so flying earlier is just not going to happen. The 21st would be cutting it very close for the rest of my trip plans. I'm flying in La Premiere so I don't know if that would make them a little more willing to help?
Also, if they somehow manage to find enough cabin crew to run the flight during the strike, would the service at the CDG lounge be any different as presumably there wouldn't be as many La Premiere passengers coming through?
Also, if they somehow manage to find enough cabin crew to run the flight during the strike, would the service at the CDG lounge be any different as presumably there wouldn't be as many La Premiere passengers coming through?
Last edited by luluv; Mar 14, 2017 at 8:59 am
Mar 14, 2017, 10:02 am
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The problem of AF is that they don't have many partners with first class. Depends on your route. They could possibly reroute your involuntarly to another airline in first class, but then, you also paid for the nice AF F class and its CDG service (assuming you are connecting to somewhere else).
If your F flight is not cancel, just enjoy it, the rest will be rebooked as needed also on competitors like LH if needed. If your F flight is cancelled, perhaps they can reroute you to the closest AF F station (like TYO instead of SEL, PVG instead of HKG etc.) that operates on that day.
4 years ago, I was flying LH F using SK points to SIN. Flight cancelled due to LH strike. they wanted to reroute me via BKK with a connection in C. I asked to be rebooked on SQ F which had a similar schedule to their cancelled flight and was direct. Got it approved, rebooked in A class, earned lots of SK points. I was allowed into the FCT in FRA since I was supposed to fly LH, they could not drive me to SQ so I had to walk to the normal terminal, spend time in the LH F lounge before boarding. A lucky F experience during a strike
Hopefully you'll experience something similar!
If your F flight is not cancel, just enjoy it, the rest will be rebooked as needed also on competitors like LH if needed. If your F flight is cancelled, perhaps they can reroute you to the closest AF F station (like TYO instead of SEL, PVG instead of HKG etc.) that operates on that day.
4 years ago, I was flying LH F using SK points to SIN. Flight cancelled due to LH strike. they wanted to reroute me via BKK with a connection in C. I asked to be rebooked on SQ F which had a similar schedule to their cancelled flight and was direct. Got it approved, rebooked in A class, earned lots of SK points. I was allowed into the FCT in FRA since I was supposed to fly LH, they could not drive me to SQ so I had to walk to the normal terminal, spend time in the LH F lounge before boarding. A lucky F experience during a strike
Hopefully you'll experience something similar!
Mar 14, 2017, 10:15 am
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For Rock72, I would call Delta (which handles AF flights in the US). One possibility would be to reroute via LHR on VS (2x daily most days), which is a DL JV partner and has a W cabin (that's actually better than AF's). You can then fly LHR-CDG (or take the train at your own expense) in Y if need be (though you'll have to transfer from T3 to T4).