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Old Jun 24, 2015, 6:17 am
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Originally Posted by GenevaFlyer
So yes, AF is linking the strike to the pilot's overall contribution to the Transform plan.
Indeed. But how can pilots make the effort by themselves ?
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 9:54 am
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My understanding is *not*, that the airline takes the pilots unions to court for not having realised savings.

What has been taken to court is a disagreement about one of the clauses in the agreement lying behind the savings plan. Air France wants to have the possibility to have A de Juniac take the final decision in case of disagreements among the other stakeholders. Apparently the pilots' unions are opposed. The matter has been taken to court to get a ruling how the agreement should be interpreted.

But then, my understanding may be wrong.

Originally Posted by olivedel
Indeed. But how can pilots make the effort by themselves ?
By agreeing to higher productivity, cost measures, etc. For instance, they could accept to work at TO conditions when flying TO plans. For instance, they could accept to fly more hours. Etc.

(Or did I misunderstand your question?)
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 10:13 am
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My French is not very good, but I don't understand what remedy the court is supposed to provide?
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Old Jun 24, 2015, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by San Gottardo
My understanding is *not*, that the airline takes the pilots unions to court for not having realised savings.

What has been taken to court is a disagreement about one of the clauses in the agreement lying behind the savings plan. Air France wants to have the possibility to have A de Juniac take the final decision in case of disagreements among the other stakeholders. Apparently the pilots' unions are opposed. The matter has been taken to court to get a ruling how the agreement should be interpreted.
Thanks for pointing this out as the article is not very clear.

Originally Posted by Le Monde
Avec ce référé, la direction veut que la justice avalise une disposition du plan Transform qui donne au PDG de la compagnie le pouvoir de trancher en cas de blocage.
That is indeed exactly what you are saying, and is probably the point to which the court has been taken.

Originally Posted by Le Monde, again
« Faux », rétorque le SNPL, qui assure « avoir respecté l’accord signé ».
But here, we do not know whether SNPL is talking about the savings or the above mentioned point, taken to court, as the article mainly is focused on the savings.

A more recent article (http://www.lesechos.fr/journal201506...VETDEzBpbUi.99) suggests though that AF indeed wants the court to rule that the management should have the last word on Transform plan.

Originally Posted by Les Echos
Air France espère obtenir l'autorisation d'imposer aux pilotes l'application complète du plan Transform 2015.

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Old Jun 24, 2015, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
My French is not very good, but I don't understand what remedy the court is supposed to provide?
Back in 2012, Transform agreements said that pilots should provide a 20% increase in productivity. It also said that in case of failure [from the pilots in that case], the airline management could unilaterally require additional measures.

Now that almost everyone agrees that pilots did not meet the target, mainly due to the 2014 strike, AF is in position to order these measures. The pilots would disagree and AF wants the court to say these measures can be unilaterally called.
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Old May 30, 2016, 10:38 am
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Well I guess the pilots are not going to wait for the courts? Am I reading this right?

http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/air-fr...2043039_23.php
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