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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible


NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)


ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date

Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25


Code:
F-GSPA  NEV4
 F-GSPE  NEV4
 F-GSPM  NEV4
 F-GSPZ  NEV4
 
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25


Code:
F-GSPD
 F-GSPP



Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:
F-GSPB  BEST
 F-GSPC  BEST
 F-GSPF  BEST
 F-GSPG  BEST
 F-GSPH  BEST
 F-GSPI  BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK  BEST
 F-GSPQ  BEST
 F-GSPR  BEST
 F-GSPS  BEST
 F-GSPT  BEST
 F-GSPU  BEST
 F-GSPV  BEST
 F-GSPX  BEST
 F-GSPY  BEST
 
 
 or
 
 
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25



Code:
F-GSPL  BEST
 F-GSPO  BEST
 F-GSPN  BEST
 
 
 
 







Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:
All Converted to BEST
 
 



Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:
F-GSQD  NEV4
 F-GSQE  NEV4
 F-GZNH  NEV4
 F-GZNI  NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK  NEV4
 

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43




Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:
F-GSQA  BEST
 F-GSQB  BEST
 F-GSQC  BEST
 F-GSQF  BEST
 F-GSQG  BEST
 F-GSQH  BEST
 F-GSQI  BEST
 F-GSQJ  BEST
 F-GSQK  BEST
 F-GSQL  BEST
 F-GSQY  BEST
 F-GSQM  BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV  BEST
 F-GSQY  BEST
 F-GZNA  BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC  BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE  BEST
 
 
 or
 
 
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:
F-GSQN  NEV4
 F-GSQO  NEV4
 F-GSQP  NEV4
 F-GSQR  NEV4
 F-GSQS  NEV4
 F-GSQT  NEV4
 F-GSQX  NEV4
 F-GZNF  NEV4
 F-GZNG  NEV4
 F-GZNL  NEV4
 F-GZNN  NEV4
 F-GZNO  NEV4
 

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:
F-GZNP  NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ  NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR  NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
 
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Old Feb 24, 2015, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
Thank you for these info.
Seems AF center seat are more private than CX center seat.
They don't, as both seats are not private from the aisle.

There is no divider on the typical Cirrus seat, but the earphone cabinet door serves as divider if you open it. I have traveled many times on a CX center seat (with and without my wife) and there is complete privacy from your neighbor, but not from the aisle.

As mentioned by Cedricgerald, AF seat cannot move forward so it is hard to have a conversation with your neighbor (I have not flown AF seat but I have sat in it). Also note that the AF TV screen has a very different position and is smallish and far away (near the feet), while the TV screen of the typical Cirrus seat is on the side and can be made to come quite close to the viewer.

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Old Feb 24, 2015, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by brunos
Also note that the AF TV screen has a very different position and is smallish and far away (near the feet), while the TV screen of the typical Cirrus seat is on the side and can be made to come quite close to the viewer.
You can also have the AF screen coming closer.
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Old Feb 24, 2015, 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by brunos
They don't, as both seats are not private from the aisle.

There is no divider on the typical Cirrus seat, but the earphone cabinet door serves as divider if you open it. I have traveled many times on a CX center seat (with and without my wife) and there is complete privacy from your neighbor, but not from the aisle.

As mentioned by Cedricgerald, AF seat cannot move forward so it is hard to have a conversation with your neighbor (I have not flown AF seat but I have sat in it). Also note that the AF TV screen has a very different position and is smallish and far away (near the feet), while the TV screen of the typical Cirrus seat is on the side and can be made to come quite close to the viewer.
Thank you for these info. More reasons to fly CX that AF.
BTW why did you fly by yourself in the center seat ? Last minute booking / upgrade /award or you prefer this seat rather than a window seat ?

By the way, F inventory increased on CX for my preferred flight so maybe CX F rather than BA F and bye bye AF J, I'm so very sad hihihi
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Old Feb 24, 2015, 8:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
You can also have the AF screen coming closer.
Yes, but no much as it is tied to the shell on top of the foot rest rather than on the side. Again, I have only experienced the seat on the ground, not inflighht; but it is quite different from a Cirrus seat. That is also clear from pictures.
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Old Feb 26, 2015, 3:24 pm
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Anyone no about new business class seats flight 681 from atl to paris on air france
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Old Feb 26, 2015, 9:15 pm
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Originally Posted by cedricgerald
Thank you for these info. More reasons to fly CX that AF.
BTW why did you fly by yourself in the center seat ? Last minute booking / upgrade /award or you prefer this seat rather than a window seat ?

By the way, F inventory increased on CX for my preferred flight so maybe CX F rather than BA F and bye bye AF J, I'm so very sad hihihi
While CX seat might be different, and possibly a bit better than AF BEST, I think that I would be very happy to fly AF BEST. It definitely looks significantly better than BA except for the BA window seat.

I have flown extensively (say near 100 times) windows/center CX seats on 777 and A330 (seat is narrower on A330). That is because I typically fly numerous LH per year and also encounters LH planes frequently on regional flights. I often travel with my wife or colleague, so center seat is nice. If alone on a LH flight, I clearly prefer a window seat and do not hesitate to choose two adjacent window seats with my wife. But the difference is not huge, while it can be on some other airlines, like LX or BA.

CX only has 6 F seats, but most of the pax on most routes, like on any airline, are award pax. That is except on "rich" routes like JFK, LAX or LHR. Sp there is plenty of F availability. But they release progressively, so you have to be very proactive in searching, and they go fast. Also, CX often release to MPC members first and then makes it available to other FFPs after a few days. I have a MPC so I can check there.
Remember to book your CX awards soon as BAEC wil drastically increase the number of avios required on partner airlines.

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Old Feb 27, 2015, 12:52 am
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Originally Posted by Julianne1
Anyone no about new business class seats flight 681 from atl to paris on air france
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ATL is not among the 2015 destinations, at the moment. Sorry ! Changes are always possible of course.
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Old Feb 27, 2015, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by brunos
While CX seat might be different, and possibly a bit better than AF BEST, I think that I would be very happy to fly AF BEST. It definitely looks significantly better than BA except for the BA window seat.

I have flown extensively (say near 100 times) windows/center CX seats on 777 and A330 (seat is narrower on A330). That is because I typically fly numerous LH per year and also encounters LH planes frequently on regional flights. I often travel with my wife or colleague, so center seat is nice. If alone on a LH flight, I clearly prefer a window seat and do not hesitate to choose two adjacent window seats with my wife. But the difference is not huge, while it can be on some other airlines, like LX or BA.

CX only has 6 F seats, but most of the pax on most routes, like on any airline, are award pax. That is except on "rich" routes like JFK, LAX or LHR. Sp there is plenty of F availability. But they release progressively, so you have to be very proactive in searching, and they go fast. Also, CX often release to MPC members first and then makes it available to other FFPs after a few days. I have a MPC so I can check there.
Remember to book your CX awards soon as BAEC wil drastically increase the number of avios required on partner airlines.
Thank you Brunos for these info.
Sorry my message was not clear : BA in F (not J) better than AF J (including BEST).
I have an MXP-HKG booked in F but need a positioning flight from CDG, hopefully something will open up from CDG or LHR, we'll
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A new update for BEST deployment has been posted by AF. As it would take me too much time to compare from the previous version, I put everything here.

- 5 frames end 2014
- 26 frames end 2015 (so 21 retrofitted in 2015)
- 44 frames end 2016 (so 18 retrofitted in 2016)
So total of 44 B777 in BEST out of 62 today in AF fleet ==> 18 B777 will stay in NEV4 (in config 42J or COI/14J).
- in 2017 : beginning of retrofit of the Airbus fleet (except A340 which will be in the process of leaving the fleet).

List of 2014/2015 destinations and date of 1st flight (warning : it doesn't necessarily mean that BEST is present every day on a specific route)
(J) means that this flight has no P and so is equipped with J/W/Y BEST
(P) means that this flight has the 4 BEST cabins (P/J/W/Y).
- LAX (AF072/069): 6 July 2015 (J)
- JFK (AF012/017): 1st june 2015 (J)
- JFK (AF010/011): 27 January 2015 (P)
- JFK (AF008/009): 20 june 2014 (J) and 29 March 15 (P)
- IAD (AF026/027): 6 July 2015 (J)
- YVR (AF374/379): 20 june 2015 (J)
- YYZ (AF356/351): 4 may 2015 (J)
- GRU (AF456/459): 12 January 2015 (J)
- PTY (AF474/475): 14 sept 2015 (J)
- PEK (AF382/381): 12 oct 2015 (P)
- PVG (AF112/107): 10 nov 2014 (J)
- CAN (AF102/107): 29 March 2015 (J)
- WUH (AF132/139): 15 June 2015 (J)
- SIN (AF256/257): 9 June 2015 (J)
- SIN/CGK (AF254/259): 29 sept 2014 (P)
- HND (AF272/279): 26 oct 2014 (J)
- HND (AF274/293): 30 dec 2014 (J) and 14 April 2015 (P)
- DLA/SSH (AF958/953): 7 April 2015 (J)
- LBV (AF976/977): 14 sept 2015 (P)
- NSI (AF900/901): 14 May 2015 (J) and 3 aug 2015 (P)
- BGF/NSI (AF775): 1st sept 2015 (J)
- BEY (AF566/565): 14 sept 2015 (P)
- DXB (AF3884/3831): 23 feb 2015 (P)
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
(...) 18 B777 will stay in NEV4 (in config 42J or COI/14J)(...)
Do you know where the 42 biz seat planes will be flying to?
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Old Mar 3, 2015, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by carnarvon
Do you know where the 42 biz seat planes will be flying to?
No (outside COI destinations : PTP, FDF, RUN, CAY, HAV, SDQ, Punta Cana, MRU, BKK, LIM, CUN), but I would guess it will be to destinations with low or no competition or when the competitor or partner has a NEV4-equivalent product. So, in this category, I'm thinking about EZE, SCL, BOG, TNR, SGN, some secondary African destinations (without P). But that's just my 2c.
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Most of the AF010/011 (CDG-JFK) flights seem to be on the old 777-200 the upcoming weeks.
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777 New Cabins - Deployment Schedule

My flight from HND has opened for check in and is showing the old seat map.

This sucks. Thanks AF.
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 6:26 am
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Originally Posted by mario
My flight from HND has opened for check in and is showing the old seat map.

This sucks. Thanks AF.
Yeah. This is actually the case for many HND flights. I think that AF is very far behind on the original rollout plan.
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by Zembla
Yeah. This is actually the case for many HND flights. I think that AF is very far behind on the original rollout plan.
Well, I can't deny I was lucky then. Just flew GIG CDG HND. GIG CDG was on NEV4 in a 773. Nothing to write home about, in fact. CDG HND has the new BEST seats. It's a totally different experience...
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