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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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May 23, 2016, 1:49 am

#646

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Originally Posted by wco81

What does BEST mean?

New updated seats? Are they lie-flat?

Does it mean once a location becomes BEST, it remains BEST permanently or just for a period of time?

So after July 30, SFO-CDG flights will have the BEST premium cabin in the AF fleet?

It's lie flat in a 1-2-1 configuration. En excellent seat, arguably out there with the best J seats that currently exist.

SFO probably will have them, but we have seen changes before....

May 23, 2016, 10:15 am

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I liked AF business class the upper deck of the 747 (AF83/84)

Hope to see the improved product on this route.

May 23, 2016, 1:37 pm

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Originally Posted by wco81

I liked AF business class the upper deck of the 747 (AF83/84)

Hope to see the improved product on this route.

It's an A380 route by now. You need to be lucky. I believe the A380 cabin enhancement campaign has only started recently.

May 24, 2016, 12:24 am

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I don't remember AF having NEV upstairs on its 744. You must be confusing airlines.

And the A380 retrofit will not start until 2018.

May 24, 2016, 3:29 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wco81

I liked AF business class the upper deck of the 747 (AF83/84)

Hope to see the improved product on this route.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brunos

I don't remember AF having NEV upstairs on its 744. You must be confusing airlines.

But wco81 is not talking about NEV seats upper deck 744, but Business class seat. At the time of Espace 127 (and likely before), AF indeed had a part of J class on the upper deck of the 744.

May 26, 2016, 2:54 pm

#651

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Originally Posted by Goldorak

But wco81 is not talking about NEV seats upper deck 744, but Business class seat. At the time of Espace 127 (and likely before), AF indeed had a part of J class on the upper deck of the 744.

I did not realize we were talking about a decade ago

As wco81 mentions 747 not 744, I remember flying AF F on the UD. I think a 742.

May 27, 2016, 4:58 am

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Hello,
I am new to this forum, so I am sorry if my question has already been answered too often. I am flying to OSAKA (KIX) this summer and the cabinplan of my flight looks nothing like the ones I am used to. I couldnt find much information about this cabinplan. I checked websites like seatguru, but I couldnt find it.
I attached a picture of the cabinplan. I was wondering which seats are the best or if there are some recommendations. I used some of my Miles to get one of the seats in front. Now I can choose all of the yellow seats but I cant decide which one is good for a quiet time and maybe a bit of extra legroom.
Thanks in advance.

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May 27, 2016, 5:36 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

But wco81 is not talking about NEV seats upper deck 744, but Business class seat. At the time of Espace 127 (and likely before), AF indeed had a part of J class on the upper deck of the 744.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brunos

I did not realize we were talking about a decade ago

As wco81 mentions 747 not 744, I remember flying AF F on the UD. I think a 742.

I know this is a "bit" off topic, but does anyone know the reasoning/historical reasons for making the Upper Deck on the Air France 744 all economy class (Seat Plus)? Just always seemed very strange to me. Most airlines seems to allocate some portion of premium class upstairs on their 747-400s.

I did my final Air France 744 flight last summer, CDG-BOS in business class (with my dog... unfortunately, but it was the "yearly" summer trip...)... Luckily, the dog slept most of the flight. Was happy to get one final chance to ride an Air France 747.

May 27, 2016, 7:32 am

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Originally Posted by Schwalex

I think you don't find it because this set-up is only used in high season in which they replace some J seats (Biz) with Y ones (Eco), your row 7 is normally for J but during high season they put eco seats instead.

I have never travelled in such cabin set-up but your choice seems good and you are really in the front of the plane if that matters for you, what i don't know however is if they place a wall in front of you to separate J from Y and how much it would affect the pitch . Seats 24C and 24J seem good too as you don't have anyone in front of you.

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May 27, 2016, 9:27 am

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. Seats 24C and 24J seem good too as you don't have anyone in front of you.

With the usual disclaimer that FAs will bump into you with their trollies etc.

May 28, 2016, 1:07 am

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Originally Posted by newflyer27

The front of the plane for Y is row 7, and these are very good seats. And yes, they install a partition between the J and the Y cabin during quickchange.
A big warning on row 24. The row in front (23) is the row with crying babies.

May 30, 2016, 2:48 am

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Thank you all for your information. I think I will stay in row 7 because it seems like there won't be crying babies around me and also I prefer to be in front of the plane.
For economy travellers this cabin configuration seems really nice. But premium economy travellers are stuck between economy cabins.

May 30, 2016, 4:30 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

But wco81 is not talking about NEV seats upper deck 744, but Business class seat. At the time of Espace 127 (and likely before), AF indeed had a part of J class on the upper deck of the 744.

Was it even before espace 127 that part of the UD was smoking and part no smoking ? That was 2 decades ago with red seat and a loose footrest IIRC

May 31, 2016, 12:06 am

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Was it even before espace 127 that part of the UD was smoking and part no smoking ? That was 2 decades ago with red seat and a loose footrest IIRC

I don't know. I started to travel intensively at the time of Espace 127/180, and everything was non-smoking. But there were Espace 127 J seats upstairs at one point. For the smoking sections, I only remember my Air Inter flights ORY-NCE-NCE.

May 31, 2016, 7:08 am

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For the smoking sections, I only remember my Air Inter flights ORY-NCE-NCE.

Oh, "c'est un vol Air Inter" !