Jul 21, 2015, 3:15 am
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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA – NEV4 F-GSPE – NEV4 F-GSPM – NEV4 F-GSPZ – NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB – BEST F-GSPC – BEST F-GSPF – BEST F-GSPG – BEST F-GSPH – BEST F-GSPI – BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK – BEST F-GSPQ – BEST F-GSPR – BEST F-GSPS – BEST F-GSPT – BEST F-GSPU – BEST F-GSPV – BEST F-GSPX – BEST F-GSPY – BESTor
Code:
F-GSPL – BEST F-GSPO – BEST F-GSPN – BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD – NEV4 F-GSQE – NEV4 F-GZNH – NEV4 F-GZNI – NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA – BEST F-GSQB – BEST F-GSQC – BEST F-GSQF – BEST F-GSQG – BEST F-GSQH – BEST F-GSQI – BEST F-GSQJ – BEST F-GSQK – BEST F-GSQL – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GSQM – BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GZNA – BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC – BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE – BESTor
Code:
F-GSQN – NEV4 F-GSQO – NEV4 F-GSQP – NEV4 F-GSQR – NEV4 F-GSQS – NEV4 F-GSQT – NEV4 F-GSQX – NEV4 F-GZNF – NEV4 F-GZNG – NEV4 F-GZNL – NEV4 F-GZNN – NEV4 F-GZNO – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
777 New Cabins - Deployment Schedule
Nov 1, 2014, 9:32 am
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Very disappointing indeed! I am glad I booked myself on AF8 for early January, though there might be a last minute change of aircraft (I have not been able to access the seat map for a few days….). When I was booking my flights I suspicious that the new cabins were not loaded for the announced dates; for AF10 the new cabin showed only from late January which is the new announced day.
Goldorak what is your source?
brunos the new F was supposed to be rolled out on these flights with a 4-cabin B773:
CDG-JFK - AF010/011 : From Dec 22th, 2014
CDG-DXB - AF3884/3881 : From Feb 2nd, 2015
CDG-IAH - AF 636/639 : From Feb 9th, 2015
Goldorak what is your source?
brunos the new F was supposed to be rolled out on these flights with a 4-cabin B773:
CDG-JFK - AF010/011 : From Dec 22th, 2014
CDG-DXB - AF3884/3881 : From Feb 2nd, 2015
CDG-IAH - AF 636/639 : From Feb 9th, 2015
Nov 1, 2014, 9:38 am
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Very disappointing indeed! I am glad I booked myself on AF8 for early January, though there might be a last minute change of aircraft (I have not been able to access the seat map for a few days….). When I was booking my flights I suspicious that the new cabins were not loaded for the announced dates; for AF10 the new cabin showed only from late January which is the new announced day.
Goldorak what is your source?
brunos the new F was supposed to be rolled out on these flights with a 4-cabin B773:
CDG-JFK - AF010/011 : From Dec 22th, 2014
CDG-DXB - AF3884/3881 : From Feb 2nd, 2015
CDG-IAH - AF 636/639 : From Feb 9th, 2015
Goldorak what is your source?
brunos the new F was supposed to be rolled out on these flights with a 4-cabin B773:
CDG-JFK - AF010/011 : From Dec 22th, 2014
CDG-DXB - AF3884/3881 : From Feb 2nd, 2015
CDG-IAH - AF 636/639 : From Feb 9th, 2015
Last edited by brunos; Nov 1, 2014 at 9:50 am
Nov 1, 2014, 9:43 am
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Admins - it would be nice to have a wiki for this thread
Nov 1, 2014, 9:09 pm
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The new F (and J) is indeed present on SIN/CGN for a bit more than a month, but not yet every day as they need 2 aircrafts equipped for such a long route.
The new F (and J) is indeed present on SIN/CGN for a bit more than a month, but not yet every day as they need 2 aircrafts equipped for such a long route.
Last edited by Goldorak; Nov 1, 2014 at 9:24 pm
Nov 2, 2014, 1:49 am
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According to the deployment schedule AF010 will be served with all 4-cabins on a B773. These days it is served mostly with a B772 which currently have 4F seats.
When you look at late January seat maps of AF010 you see a mix of B772 and B773 - both with the new cabin…
I have not booked my flight yet, but now am more inclined to go with AF06 (A380) as I enjoy the lower noise level.
When you look at late January seat maps of AF010 you see a mix of B772 and B773 - both with the new cabin…
I have not booked my flight yet, but now am more inclined to go with AF06 (A380) as I enjoy the lower noise level.
Nov 2, 2014, 11:00 am
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And here it comes 
Instead of trying to accelerate the deployment of the BEST seats to better fight the competition and regain customers confidence after the strike, the 1st delays are announced and non-negligible. And I'm particularly mad because my outbound flight to HND, booked during the UK WOW sale, is now showing the old seat map
- AF10/11 JFK : 1st flight on 26/01/2015 (instead of December 2014), with progressive deployment (i.e. will not be available every day at the beginning).
- AF272/273 HND :1st flight on 31/12/2014 (instead of October), with progressive deployment
- AF274/293 HND : 1st flight on 26/10/2014, with progressive deployment
- AF3884/3831 DXB : 1st flight on 09/02/2015 (instead of 02/02), with progressive deployment
- DLA / SSB / BOS / IAH : deployment delayed from feb/march 2015 to summer 2015
Outside my personal disappointment for HND, of course some delays are very minor like DXB (1 week) but it is extremely disappointing to see the 2015 schedule delayed for several months. I'm wondering wether this 2015 delay is due to budget constraints/savings following to the strike. But if it is the reason, that's not where they should look for savings. They should rather accelerate.
Bad bad bad
Instead of trying to accelerate the deployment of the BEST seats to better fight the competition and regain customers confidence after the strike, the 1st delays are announced and non-negligible. And I'm particularly mad because my outbound flight to HND, booked during the UK WOW sale, is now showing the old seat map
- AF10/11 JFK : 1st flight on 26/01/2015 (instead of December 2014), with progressive deployment (i.e. will not be available every day at the beginning).
- AF272/273 HND :1st flight on 31/12/2014 (instead of October), with progressive deployment
- AF274/293 HND : 1st flight on 26/10/2014, with progressive deployment
- AF3884/3831 DXB : 1st flight on 09/02/2015 (instead of 02/02), with progressive deployment
- DLA / SSB / BOS / IAH : deployment delayed from feb/march 2015 to summer 2015
Outside my personal disappointment for HND, of course some delays are very minor like DXB (1 week) but it is extremely disappointing to see the 2015 schedule delayed for several months. I'm wondering wether this 2015 delay is due to budget constraints/savings following to the strike. But if it is the reason, that's not where they should look for savings. They should rather accelerate.
Bad bad bad
And by the way, not only have the incompetent idiots changed the configuration, but they can't be arsed to transpose seat assignments. So I had 1L and now am left with no window as those clowns say that 1L is "not available" and no other window seat. Great way to take care of your platinums for life on paid bookings I guess... Maybe they just deserve bankruptcy...
Nov 2, 2014, 10:50 pm
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+1 And by the way, not only have the incompetent idiots changed the configuration, but they can't be arsed to transpose seat assignments. So I had 1L and now am left with no window as those clowns say that 1L is "not available" and no other window seat. Great way to take care of your platinums for life on paid bookings I guess... Maybe they just deserve bankruptcy...
And by the way, not only have the incompetent idiots changed the configuration, but they can't be arsed to transpose seat assignments. So I had 1L and now am left with no window as those clowns say that 1L is "not available" and no other window seat. Great way to take care of your platinums for life on paid bookings I guess... Maybe they just deserve bankruptcy...I do remember some warnings that there might be technical delays or flight swaps, so this was always a bit of a gamble. Let's hope that we will not be in a situation a la NEV1, where the technical delays reached years.
Nov 3, 2014, 1:16 am
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This is truly a nasty way to reward FT and Goldorak and Orbitmic, the most esteemed members of our small community.
I do remember some warnings that there might be technical delays or flight swaps, so this was always a bit of a gamble. Let's hope that we will not be in a situation a la NEV1, where the technical delays reached years.
I do remember some warnings that there might be technical delays or flight swaps, so this was always a bit of a gamble. Let's hope that we will not be in a situation a la NEV1, where the technical delays reached years.
That said, while plane substitutions - however frustrating, do occur, I frankly cannot see a case for AF not protecting seat assignments and "ensuring" that people who had pre-assigned windows and happen to be of the highest FB tier are left with middle seats.
But then, what do I know anyway? After all, partner and myself, respectively Plat for life and Gold are flying with AF tomorrow, on a single PNR, and AF's auto-check in still managed to (1) give us separate seats and (2) both aisles while "window" has been the constant and unequivocal preference on both our profiles for about 15 and 10 years respectively and some of us do enjoy seating together when travelling as a pair. Maybe AF just live in their own little parallel universe and I can only hope for them that there are enough passengers also living in parallel universes to guarantee their long term custom and profitability.
Nov 3, 2014, 2:17 am
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This is truly a nasty way to reward FT and Goldorak and Orbitmic, the most esteemed members of our small community.
I do remember some warnings that there might be technical delays or flight swaps, so this was always a bit of a gamble. Let's hope that we will not be in a situation a la NEV1, where the technical delays reached years.
I do remember some warnings that there might be technical delays or flight swaps, so this was always a bit of a gamble. Let's hope that we will not be in a situation a la NEV1, where the technical delays reached years.
Let's hope...
Nov 3, 2014, 2:19 am
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I have exactly the same problem as you for the seats reassignments...
Nov 3, 2014, 2:37 am
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Nov 3, 2014, 4:30 am
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Nov 4, 2014, 7:30 pm
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According to this press release from Oct 31 all flights CDG-HND will be operated with the new cabin from Dec 31
http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/pr...dair-france-1/
http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/pr...dair-france-1/
At the end of 2014, five Air France Boeings will be equipped with these new cabins. The Company now offers optimum travel comfort to New York, Singapore, Jakarta and Tokyo-Haneda. Soon, Shanghai, Dubai and Sao Paulo will be available with these exceptional new cabins.
Nov 5, 2014, 7:27 am
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According to this press release from Oct 31 all flights CDG-HND will be operated with the new cabin from Dec 31
http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/pr...dair-france-1/
http://corporate.airfrance.com/en/pr...dair-france-1/
By the way, there's a trip report on new first Jakarta-Singapore in the Trip Reports section.