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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA – NEV4 F-GSPE – NEV4 F-GSPM – NEV4 F-GSPZ – NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB – BEST F-GSPC – BEST F-GSPF – BEST F-GSPG – BEST F-GSPH – BEST F-GSPI – BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK – BEST F-GSPQ – BEST F-GSPR – BEST F-GSPS – BEST F-GSPT – BEST F-GSPU – BEST F-GSPV – BEST F-GSPX – BEST F-GSPY – BESTor
Code:
F-GSPL – BEST F-GSPO – BEST F-GSPN – BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD – NEV4 F-GSQE – NEV4 F-GZNH – NEV4 F-GZNI – NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA – BEST F-GSQB – BEST F-GSQC – BEST F-GSQF – BEST F-GSQG – BEST F-GSQH – BEST F-GSQI – BEST F-GSQJ – BEST F-GSQK – BEST F-GSQL – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GSQM – BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GZNA – BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC – BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE – BESTor
Code:
F-GSQN – NEV4 F-GSQO – NEV4 F-GSQP – NEV4 F-GSQR – NEV4 F-GSQS – NEV4 F-GSQT – NEV4 F-GSQX – NEV4 F-GZNF – NEV4 F-GZNG – NEV4 F-GZNL – NEV4 F-GZNN – NEV4 F-GZNO – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
777 New Cabins - Deployment Schedule
Aug 28, 2014, 2:27 pm
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I was playing around with dates for CDG-SIN (ie after Sept 29th 2014), and I'm seing some dates with the old seat map (2-3-2 configuration) and other dates with the new seat map (1-2-1). Is this a bug in the interface, or will there be a mix of old and new seat configurations?
Aug 29, 2014, 8:53 am
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It turns out that I'm able to reschedule to a flight with the new seat. Hoping it's worth it!
Aug 29, 2014, 4:44 pm
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Sep 3, 2014, 2:17 am
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Sep 9, 2014, 12:01 pm
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Here are some info released today on AF travel agent portal. For reference to current seat version of AF fleet per type, please see this post :
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23499618-post13.html
B777
The retrofit to BEST configuration concerns 44 out of 62 planes.
B772
the current 3 and 4 cabins config will all move to the single BEST config 40J 24W 216Y before end 2016 (4 planes before end 2014, 8 more before end 2015 and 13 more before end 2016). Overall 25 planes retrofitted before end 2016.
B77W
- COI version : as we could have expected, they will remain in NEV4
- current 4 cabins version : will all move to the BEST config 4P 58J 28W 206Y before end 2015 (3 planes before end 2014, 16 more before end 2015). Overall 19 planes retrofitted before end 2015.
- current 3 cabins configuration (42J 24W 315Y) : will all remain in NEV4. This is very surprising as I thought all 777 (except COI) would be retrofitted. I believe those are probably the "oldest" 77W delivered to AF but some B772 are older than those and will be retrofitted (see above). So pretty strange...
A388
All frames (n=10) to be retrofitted from beginning 2017.
A332
All frames (n=15) to be retrofitted from beginning 2017.
A343 and B747
As we already knew, no retrofit. Those planes will leave the fleet progressively in the coming months/years.
IMO, I would have liked this retrofit to be done more rapidly, although I understand the complexity. We are talking here of 4 years if there's no delay...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23499618-post13.html
B777
The retrofit to BEST configuration concerns 44 out of 62 planes.
B772
the current 3 and 4 cabins config will all move to the single BEST config 40J 24W 216Y before end 2016 (4 planes before end 2014, 8 more before end 2015 and 13 more before end 2016). Overall 25 planes retrofitted before end 2016.
B77W
- COI version : as we could have expected, they will remain in NEV4
- current 4 cabins version : will all move to the BEST config 4P 58J 28W 206Y before end 2015 (3 planes before end 2014, 16 more before end 2015). Overall 19 planes retrofitted before end 2015.
- current 3 cabins configuration (42J 24W 315Y) : will all remain in NEV4. This is very surprising as I thought all 777 (except COI) would be retrofitted. I believe those are probably the "oldest" 77W delivered to AF but some B772 are older than those and will be retrofitted (see above). So pretty strange...
A388
All frames (n=10) to be retrofitted from beginning 2017.
A332
All frames (n=15) to be retrofitted from beginning 2017.
A343 and B747
As we already knew, no retrofit. Those planes will leave the fleet progressively in the coming months/years.
IMO, I would have liked this retrofit to be done more rapidly, although I understand the complexity. We are talking here of 4 years if there's no delay...
Sep 10, 2014, 4:44 am
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This is indeed a bit weird.
The "COI" version is also used on some other international non-COI routes, so that's no fun.
I do not know how many 3-cabins 77W there are but it is weird that they will remain with NEV. Not sure that they are all so old, I thought that they had received recent deliveries in that version.
Anyway the rule will be simple in 2017: NEW only on 77W with P or 772. But the risk of substitution of a 3-class 772 by a 3-class 77W will exist; or a 77W with P by a 77W without P. Bad.
The "COI" version is also used on some other international non-COI routes, so that's no fun.
I do not know how many 3-cabins 77W there are but it is weird that they will remain with NEV. Not sure that they are all so old, I thought that they had received recent deliveries in that version.
Anyway the rule will be simple in 2017: NEW only on 77W with P or 772. But the risk of substitution of a 3-class 772 by a 3-class 77W will exist; or a 77W with P by a 77W without P. Bad.
Sep 10, 2014, 9:19 am
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I see a big mess coming the next years
Sep 10, 2014, 10:21 am
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DKR and BEY are just incidental last minute substitutions, while BKK and LIM are permanently served by the COI config (and YUL for one of the flights during the peak summer period).
Sep 12, 2014, 10:28 am
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The link, in french, with all details,:
https://www.agentconnect.biz/FR/fr/l...f/BEST_AGV.pdf
Long-haul fleet until the end of 2016
Comparative & photos of the different versions equipped BEST Business Destinations until end March 2015
Long-haul fleet from 2017
(In 2017, the Business V2 and V3 ** seats will have disappeared (** except for the 6 first A380)
in BEST Business cabin, windows seats are only accessible to Elite + passengers and to booking classes J, C and D (i.e not to Z fares...)
https://www.agentconnect.biz/FR/fr/l...f/BEST_AGV.pdf
Long-haul fleet until the end of 2016
Comparative & photos of the different versions equipped BEST Business Destinations until end March 2015
Long-haul fleet from 2017
(In 2017, the Business V2 and V3 ** seats will have disappeared (** except for the 6 first A380)
in BEST Business cabin, windows seats are only accessible to Elite + passengers and to booking classes J, C and D (i.e not to Z fares...)
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Sep 12, 2014, 10:39 pm
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Thank you for the interesting information.
The sad news is the confirmation that horrible NEV2 (introduced in 2003) still exist on 777W and 772 and will only disappear by 2017.
Even NEV3 will still be there on 6 out of 9 A380 (I know that Orbitmic prefers NEV3 over NEV4 but it is really bad in sleeping mode, although much better in seating mode).
The sad news is the confirmation that horrible NEV2 (introduced in 2003) still exist on 777W and 772 and will only disappear by 2017.
Even NEV3 will still be there on 6 out of 9 A380 (I know that Orbitmic prefers NEV3 over NEV4 but it is really bad in sleeping mode, although much better in seating mode).
Sep 13, 2014, 1:53 am
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Sep 13, 2014, 4:00 am
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Sep 13, 2014, 4:00 am
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BTW, the picture given for NEV3, called V3 above looks to be NEV4, the latest version with restricted personal space and fixed footrest. V2 is a picture of NEV2 with fixed arm rest. My guess is that AF used the wrong picture for NEV3.
Sep 26, 2014, 7:16 pm
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I'm on AF 272 in late March and the website shows 2-3-2 ...
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