Jul 21, 2015, 3:15 am
Last edit by: FN-GM
LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA – NEV4 F-GSPE – NEV4 F-GSPM – NEV4 F-GSPZ – NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB – BEST F-GSPC – BEST F-GSPF – BEST F-GSPG – BEST F-GSPH – BEST F-GSPI – BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK – BEST F-GSPQ – BEST F-GSPR – BEST F-GSPS – BEST F-GSPT – BEST F-GSPU – BEST F-GSPV – BEST F-GSPX – BEST F-GSPY – BESTor
Code:
F-GSPL – BEST F-GSPO – BEST F-GSPN – BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD – NEV4 F-GSQE – NEV4 F-GZNH – NEV4 F-GZNI – NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA – BEST F-GSQB – BEST F-GSQC – BEST F-GSQF – BEST F-GSQG – BEST F-GSQH – BEST F-GSQI – BEST F-GSQJ – BEST F-GSQK – BEST F-GSQL – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GSQM – BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GZNA – BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC – BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE – BESTor
Code:
F-GSQN – NEV4 F-GSQO – NEV4 F-GSQP – NEV4 F-GSQR – NEV4 F-GSQS – NEV4 F-GSQT – NEV4 F-GSQX – NEV4 F-GZNF – NEV4 F-GZNG – NEV4 F-GZNL – NEV4 F-GZNN – NEV4 F-GZNO – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
777 New Cabins - Deployment Schedule
Apr 11, 2015, 8:57 am
#226
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A new update for BEST deployment has been posted by AF. As it would take me too much time to compare from the previous version, I put everything here.
- 5 frames end 2014
- 26 frames end 2015 (so 21 retrofitted in 2015)
- 44 frames end 2016 (so 18 retrofitted in 2016)
So total of 44 B777 in BEST out of 62 today in AF fleet ==> 18 B777 will stay in NEV4 (in config 42J or COI/14J).
- in 2017 : beginning of retrofit of the Airbus fleet (except A340 which will be in the process of leaving the fleet).
List of 2014/2015 destinations and date of 1st flight (warning : it doesn't necessarily mean that BEST is present every day on a specific route)
(J) means that this flight has no P and so is equipped with J/W/Y BEST
(P) means that this flight has the 4 BEST cabins (P/J/W/Y).
- YVR (AF374/379): 20 june 2015 (J)
- 5 frames end 2014
- 26 frames end 2015 (so 21 retrofitted in 2015)
- 44 frames end 2016 (so 18 retrofitted in 2016)
So total of 44 B777 in BEST out of 62 today in AF fleet ==> 18 B777 will stay in NEV4 (in config 42J or COI/14J).
- in 2017 : beginning of retrofit of the Airbus fleet (except A340 which will be in the process of leaving the fleet).
List of 2014/2015 destinations and date of 1st flight (warning : it doesn't necessarily mean that BEST is present every day on a specific route)
(J) means that this flight has no P and so is equipped with J/W/Y BEST
(P) means that this flight has the 4 BEST cabins (P/J/W/Y).
- YVR (AF374/379): 20 june 2015 (J)
Apr 11, 2015, 9:28 am
#227
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We are talking about 6 months after the deployment date on this route, so it seems safe to assume it will be OK.
Apr 11, 2015, 11:14 am
#228
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Given that AF has decided to sprinkle its new seats on a large number of destinations, it is likely that YVR will only see the new seats every other day.
Apr 12, 2015, 10:51 am
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May I add to that that it has obviously turned a lot more into good old seat roulette than what the original planning and announcements suggested.
Apr 14, 2015, 2:18 am
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Last edited by orbitmic; Apr 14, 2015 at 2:51 am
Apr 14, 2015, 5:48 am
#231
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Why is so difficult "for AF" to change seats on a plane and to follow their own (already slow) schedule ?
May 13, 2015, 7:49 am
#232
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I'm flying august 10th with AF259. Currently i'm assigned to 18A, and I'm flying currently Y, but i seems with the new layout 18A is not existing anymore in the layout.
Is there any updated seat map with the new cabin layout.
Is there any updated seat map with the new cabin layout.
May 13, 2015, 2:21 pm
#233
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Just had to change my return date CDG - LAX, went from 62E on the 380 to 9E on the 777 -300ER with 2-3-2...
May 13, 2015, 5:04 pm
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Just think about it...someone may aim to book a BEST seat in 1-2-1 config (which is indeed a very good seat) and then end up on a dreadful NEV2 in 2-3-2 config...for the same price!?!!?!!
Last edited by Zembla; May 13, 2015 at 5:49 pm
May 15, 2015, 2:18 am
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Right... Technically, that is not a downgrade, but it really is a different experience...
May 18, 2015, 3:56 pm
#236
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Nevertheless, your seat 18A exists
, the first row in Y cabin:
May 18, 2015, 9:29 pm
#237
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Looking at booking IAH-MUC in Biz using Delta points and the seat map on both Delta and Air France are showing 700-300er with 1+2+1 for April 2016. Based on the last few postings on here should I prepare myself that we may end up in a Nev2 middle seat again?
May 19, 2015, 4:13 pm
#238
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As posted on the French Travel Agent Portal, agentconnect.biz, here is the deployment Schedule of new 772 and 773 cabins equipped with new cabins.
3-cabin B772:
4-cabin B773:
Link to Business cabin thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...iscussion.html
Link to La Premiere cabin thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...14-merged.html
3-cabin B772:
- CDG-JFK - AF008/009 : Since June 20th, 2014
- CDG-GRU - AF456/459 : From Feb 16th, 2015
- CDG-PVG - AF112/117 : From Dec 29th, 2014
- CDG-HND - AF274/293 : From Oct 26th to Nov 10th, 2014, and AF272/279 : From Nov 19th, 2014
- CDG-BOS - AF338/333 : From March 30th, 2015
- CDG-DLA-SSG - AF 958/953 : From March 16th, 2015
4-cabin B773:
- CDG-JFK - AF010/011 : From Dec 22th, 2014
- CDG-SIN-JKT - AF254/253 : From Sep 29th, 2014
- CDG-DXB - AF3884/3881 : From Feb 2nd, 2015
- CDG-IAH - AF 636/639 : From Feb 9th, 2015
Link to Business cabin thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...iscussion.html
Link to La Premiere cabin thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...14-merged.html
Very usefull list. I have been trying to understand whether my next flight out from CDG to GRU (AF 456 + return on AF 457) was carrying "Full Lie Flat" Business class seats but it was impossible to find the information with AF. The issue - I already had this experience in far east - is that depending on the day you might have an aircraft type or the other with two different layouts. Now this information would be precious for customers who need or want to choose their way of flying. Why airlines are hesitant or have diffculties in providing this info too? I consulted various websites but all had different info about the layout of that specific flights. Is there anyone able to assist me on this? Thanks a lot. (Travelling date would be June 2 - June 8)
May 20, 2015, 7:30 am
#239
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and it doesn't appear that seatguru shows any 777 version with the 1+2+1 configuration. What's up with that?
May 20, 2015, 9:42 am
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