Go Back   FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Air France, KLM, and Other Partners | Flying Blue > Air France Frequence Plus
Sign in using an external account

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Nov 29, 12, 5:46 am   #1
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM), France and TravelBuzz!
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Paris, France, AF F+ Rouge pour toujours, Flying Blue whatever, LH FTL, HHonors Gold, SPG Plat, formerly proud SCC Executive, now IC Ambassador, BA down to nobody
Posts: 11,576
Possible flight attendant strike on January 8th and 9th, 2013

One of the three leading flight attendant unions at Air France, UNAC, has called for a strike on January 8th and 9th.

http://www.air-journal.fr/2012-11-29...er-561930.html

Results of last elections for Air France flight attendants
- UNAC: 28%
- UNSA: 22%
- SNPNC-FO: 21%

Actually, UNAC was the only one of the three flight attendant unions to approve the Transform 2015 initiative, but as UNAC narrowly missed the minimum threshold to secure union approval for Transform 2015, Air France had to cancel the existing collective agreements for flight attendants in order to implement the plan.

In another twist, other Air France unions for other staff categories, affiliated with major national unions, have won a court ruling that prevents UNAC from participating in global negociations with the airline, as UNAC is no longer deemed, under French law, to be "representative" across all staff categories.

Last edited by JOUY31; Nov 29, 12 at 5:58 am.
JOUY31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 12, 7:01 am   #2
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: FB AF Ivory, BA Gold, SAS Gold
Posts: 7,240
This is a bit complicated when read from far away.
It looks like another move in a complex chess game among unions.
Apparently, UNAC is announcing a strike in six weeks (!) to complain about a court decision granting the request made by another union to cancel the "representativeness" of UNAC.
Apparently AF sided with UNAC on that issue and UNAC supported AF on Transform 2015.
Apparently UNAC is now opposed to Transform 2015.

I have three questions, now that UNAC is not a "representative" union any more:
- How does it affect the past approval of Transform 2015 by pilots and technical staff.
- How does it affect the prospect of getting Transform 2015 approved by PNC.
- How does it affect negotiations for Transform 2015 and a new Convention Collective at the company (AF) level?
brunos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 12, 8:47 am   #3
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: CDG/AMS
Programs: FB Plat, Petroleum Club, M&M FT, Hertz 5*, Mas Gold, Best Western Diamond (+ many low tier cards)
Posts: 2,115
My head is spinning...

UNAC stopped agreeing with AF because AF stopped agreeing with UNAC, because UNAC representatives were withdrawn by request of another union? And that's why they go on strike? Or what? Please enlighten me!

If this strike goes through and I'd ask a particpant why he/she is on strike, what would the reply be?
__________________
I never expect or ask for upgrades, but I certainly enjoy them!
Zembla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 29, 12, 1:43 pm   #4
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: 36.19N 86.78W or 26 26′ 23″ N, 82 4′ 50″ W, depending on wx
Programs: AA, DL, UA, WN, IHG
Posts: 422
Another AF strike? et alors?
6P&E is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 30, 12, 1:46 am   #5
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: FB AF Ivory, BA Gold, SAS Gold
Posts: 7,240
For those who read French, here is the court decision in question:
http://www.unac.asso.fr/upload/pdf/J...30_10_2012.pdf

it looks pretty final as the Tribunal is following the indications of the Cour de Cassation (the highest court in France). I do not know what are the implications.
brunos is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:01 pm.