Hub 2012, satellite S4 and future CDG2 developments
Oct 24, 2011, 5:21 pm
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Oct 25, 2011, 3:44 am
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I would buy ADP stock if I could (it is a badly mis-managed public sector behemoth with arrogant management - but traffic will grow and they'll use their position to rake in monopoly benefits), and I'd sell Air France stock if I had some (it is a badly mis-managed quasi public-sector behemoth with arrogant management - traffic will grow but there is no monopoly so the margin creation will happen elsewhere).
What do you think Monsieur le Professeur?
What do you think Monsieur le Professeur?
Oct 29, 2011, 6:45 am
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transfers to 2G
given that you're mentioning that there will be an incoming immigration check in 2G, does this mean that ADP is planning to replace the landside connection to 2G with an airside one? Bus or train?
Oct 29, 2011, 6:46 am
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Oct 29, 2011, 9:54 am
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I think the plan - which will essentially to move all AF Schengen flights to 2F (except regional jets which remain in sad 2G) and all AF non-Schengen flights to 2E (including S3 and S4) will smooth things out and reduce my much hated 'you were supposed to arrive at 2X but you'll arrive at 2Y instead!
AF and partners are definitely moving towards the East of terminal 2 and I think that the changes will also bring nice new lounges (I think the S3 one is nice, and hopefully, whatever will be at S4 will be nice too and of course we all hope that a new arrivals lounge will be built closer to the new centre of gravity of AF operations).
Only issue I can think of is that 2E+S3+S4 is likely to be called terminal E and I hope they make gates labelling clearer as I have heard many people getting confused by the two 'parts' of 2E (effectively two entirely different terminals) and this could get worse with the opening of S4... For the rest, I think the hub 2012 should be a nicer/easier place to transit than CDG is now.
AF and partners are definitely moving towards the East of terminal 2 and I think that the changes will also bring nice new lounges (I think the S3 one is nice, and hopefully, whatever will be at S4 will be nice too and of course we all hope that a new arrivals lounge will be built closer to the new centre of gravity of AF operations).
Only issue I can think of is that 2E+S3+S4 is likely to be called terminal E and I hope they make gates labelling clearer as I have heard many people getting confused by the two 'parts' of 2E (effectively two entirely different terminals) and this could get worse with the opening of S4... For the rest, I think the hub 2012 should be a nicer/easier place to transit than CDG is now.
Nov 9, 2011, 2:31 pm
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Myway Aéroports de Paris: 2E, 2F, TGV station and premium car parks in 2E&2F
http://www.airport-business.com/2011...rt-wayfinding/
October 2011
Recognising the benefits of simplified wayfinding, Aéroports de Paris has recently introduced the ‘My Way Aéroports de Paris’ smartphone application. This ‘app’ covers an area of 200,000sqm and currently covers Paris-Charles de Gaulle’s Terminals 2E and 2F, the TGV railway station and the Premium sector of the 2E and 2F car parks.
Divided into four sections – Routes, Leisure, Services and Favourites – it allows passengers to determine their position in the terminal; obtain directions to various useful destinations; obtain information about the location of leisure and services areas; and save past searches in the Favourites section for future reference.
(...)
“With this app, you know where you are in the airport, it includes points of interest, it’s totally intuitive, and it can direct you right to your boarding gate,” explained Olivier Tarneaud, Head of Marketing, Aéroports de Paris.
Recognising the benefits of simplified wayfinding, Aéroports de Paris has recently introduced the ‘My Way Aéroports de Paris’ smartphone application. This ‘app’ covers an area of 200,000sqm and currently covers Paris-Charles de Gaulle’s Terminals 2E and 2F, the TGV railway station and the Premium sector of the 2E and 2F car parks.
Divided into four sections – Routes, Leisure, Services and Favourites – it allows passengers to determine their position in the terminal; obtain directions to various useful destinations; obtain information about the location of leisure and services areas; and save past searches in the Favourites section for future reference.
(...)
“With this app, you know where you are in the airport, it includes points of interest, it’s totally intuitive, and it can direct you right to your boarding gate,” explained Olivier Tarneaud, Head of Marketing, Aéroports de Paris.
Nov 9, 2011, 2:46 pm
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Unless I am mistaken, it is the application that was introduced in July for Android smartphones.
Nov 14, 2011, 4:57 am
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CDG Express discussion has been moved to a new thread.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...owing-out.html
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Mar 5, 2012, 5:08 am
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Mar 5, 2012, 6:45 am
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Mar 16, 2012, 3:27 am
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Hub 2012 changes for Air France
http://ompldr.org/vZDFrZg/Hub2012-AF-en.pdf
http://ompldr.org/vZDFrZg/Hub2012-AF-en.pdf
Mar 16, 2012, 4:25 am
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Hub 2012 changes for Air France
http://ompldr.org/vZDFrZg/Hub2012-AF-en.pdf
http://ompldr.org/vZDFrZg/Hub2012-AF-en.pdf
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