Dec 9, 2019, 2:03 pm
Last edit by: Adam Smith
This thread is about AC giving a free bump up in status when one is very, very, very close to the next status level at year end.
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT STATUS BUY-UP OFFERS
FOR STATUS BUY-UP OFFERS, REFER TO THIS THREAD
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT STATUS BUY-UP OFFERS
FOR STATUS BUY-UP OFFERS, REFER TO THIS THREAD
FAQ: I am X miles/segments/dollars short of status. Will AC give it anyway?
Oct 14, 2011, 10:35 am
#16
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As an interesting side note, I just compleated an aircanada survery and some of the questions were around the ability to purchse status miles with cash or points if you were within 10k of the next status level. There we also some questions about purchsing additional e-upgrade credits.
Oct 14, 2011, 5:25 pm
#17
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But my situation is differnet. 
Because of IRROPS, I am over the threshold by 274 miles. Can I get a refund or will they credit me and allow me to be 274 short next year? 
Because of IRROPS, I am over the threshold by 274 miles. Can I get a refund or will they credit me and allow me to be 274 short next year?
Oct 16, 2011, 9:20 am
#18
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I find it amazing why people feel "entiltled" to one or another. AC has a loyalty program. Qualify for the various levels requires the member to be loyal and fly AC and associated carriers in *alliance. That's it, that's all. As easy as it might seem to "gift" one member here and there, it is at their discretion. Why? Because it's their loyalty program! Should they gift? I don't know. AC will gift if they feel it is in their best interest to do so.
If someone falls short of a qualifying level, then its really not AC's fault. As mentioned above, if status is important for someone, then let that someone pony up a few bucks for a mileage run.
Oct 16, 2011, 11:21 pm
#19
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Being able to buy your way into the next tier if you are close enough makes a lot of sense to me. The gray area is then dealt with in an even handed manner, is more profitable for the airline and gives customers their way out if status is really important to them and they can't make it onto a flight.
I think for getting comped over, status and the amount of business you do with a company, as well as the magnitude of the "favor" being asked, usually affects how adamantly they interpret the rules.
I'd be willing to bet a nice polite 10 year running SE with no history of problems or complaints who falls short by 10 miles has less to worry about than someone with no status falling short by a few hundred of E.
I think for getting comped over, status and the amount of business you do with a company, as well as the magnitude of the "favor" being asked, usually affects how adamantly they interpret the rules.
I'd be willing to bet a nice polite 10 year running SE with no history of problems or complaints who falls short by 10 miles has less to worry about than someone with no status falling short by a few hundred of E.
Oct 17, 2011, 6:43 am
#20
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Location: Sun Peaks, Taupo.
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I think I know the answer to this question, but would like the opinions of others.
Friend is currently Elite which was earned in 2010, will expire Feb 29, 2012. She has 23,000 SM at the moment for 2011.
No real travel planned for balance of 2011 calender, with quite a few other commitments in balance of 2011. MRs are possible but a hassle.
Early 2012 (Jan thru March) has much more free time.
Is she better off just flagging requalifying for Elite this year, and doing it in early 2012 instead whereby she will qualify right through until Feb 2014?
Friend is currently Elite which was earned in 2010, will expire Feb 29, 2012. She has 23,000 SM at the moment for 2011.
No real travel planned for balance of 2011 calender, with quite a few other commitments in balance of 2011. MRs are possible but a hassle.
Early 2012 (Jan thru March) has much more free time.
Is she better off just flagging requalifying for Elite this year, and doing it in early 2012 instead whereby she will qualify right through until Feb 2014?
Oct 17, 2011, 7:14 am
#21
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As far as I know, the only benefit she will lose in Jan/Feb 2012 is the 50% Elite bonus miles (assuming she chose that benefit) since the year for the bonus miles runs from Jan to Dec. Otherwise, all her other Elite benefits are intact until Mar 1/12. So assuming she does 35K miles in those 2 months, she would lose out on 17,500 non-status miles.
Since she is so close, it might be worthwhile to go for Prestige though, just so she can those few meagre ecredits (and 25% bonus miles), and then she can add those to her pool when she gets early Elite.
Since she is so close, it might be worthwhile to go for Prestige though, just so she can those few meagre ecredits (and 25% bonus miles), and then she can add those to her pool when she gets early Elite.
Oct 17, 2011, 7:34 am
#22
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As far as I know, the only benefit she will lose in Jan/Feb 2012 is the 50% Elite bonus miles (assuming she chose that benefit) since the year for the bonus miles runs from Jan to Dec. Otherwise, all her other Elite benefits are intact until Mar 1/12. So assuming she does 35K miles in those 2 months, she would lose out on 17,500 non-status miles.
Since she is so close, it might be worthwhile to go for Prestige though, just so she can those few meagre ecredits (and 25% bonus miles), and then she can add those to her pool when she gets early Elite.
Since she is so close, it might be worthwhile to go for Prestige though, just so she can those few meagre ecredits (and 25% bonus miles), and then she can add those to her pool when she gets early Elite.
P is a good idea though. The ecredits from that coupled with leftovers from this year will make Jan thru March more comfortable.
Oct 17, 2011, 8:14 am
#23
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According to OP's question. if X<=0, you will earn your status. It make senses for computers but not English senses.. 
Q: if you are X status miles short of P/E/SE, where X>0, will AC give status anyway?
A: RTFF (Read The Friendly Forum) or do a mileage run before end of the year.
Q: if you are X status miles short of P/E/SE, where X>0, will AC give status anyway?
A: RTFF (Read The Friendly Forum) or do a mileage run before end of the year.
Thats why fares are so high after christmas. Has nothing to do with people visiting loved ones, people close to status doing MR clogging up the airways... lol
Oct 17, 2011, 12:35 pm
#24
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Prestige is worth considering because even though the 20 ecredits she could get as a benefit are useless as a Prestige, they will come in handy when she hits Elite. Actually, I wonder if she could use those ecredits in Jan/Feb on T+ fares because she will still have her Elite status. Anyone care to weigh in on this?
Oct 17, 2011, 12:48 pm
#25
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Then she definitely has nothing to lose by waiting until next year to requalify! I'd say it's a no brainer.
Prestige is worth considering because even though the 20 ecredits she could get as a benefit are useless as a Prestige, they will come in handy when she hits Elite. Actually, I wonder if she could use those ecredits in Jan/Feb on T+ fares because she will still have her Elite status. Anyone care to weigh in on this?
Prestige is worth considering because even though the 20 ecredits she could get as a benefit are useless as a Prestige, they will come in handy when she hits Elite. Actually, I wonder if she could use those ecredits in Jan/Feb on T+ fares because she will still have her Elite status. Anyone care to weigh in on this?
However, this is a very YMMV situation, as we haven't seen how the system handles year changes yet, and my opinion is based solely on how the system reacts to P->E->SE changes during the same benefit year.
Oct 17, 2011, 4:00 pm
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Oct 17, 2011, 4:04 pm
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