Apr 8, 2018, 10:40 pm
Last edit by: UA Fan
Routes that do not have fuel surcharges (YQ) when operated by carriers that normally charge YQ:
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
1. USA-Germany-Other country. If only the Germany-other country segment is on LH it does not have YQ. E.g. DFW-FRA-BLR with TATL on UA and FRA-BLR on LH.
2. USA-Canada-Other country. The USA-Canada segment on AC does not have YQ if the Canada-Other country segment is operated by a carrier that does not charge YQ. E.g. DFW-YYZ-ADD.
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Jan 26, 2015, 9:21 pm
#1966
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
YYZ-ORD AC J
ORD-NRT NH F
NRT-SIN UA F (ewww...)
105,000 miles + $268.36, $149.50 YQ (about $40 more than it priced out on ITA Matrix, thanks Aeroscam
). Wanted to try the AC 787 YYZ-YVR-NRT but it was $100 more expensive and this gets me faster to SIN.
Hoping for an IRROP on NRT-SIN and getting switched to SQ F
ORD-NRT NH F
NRT-SIN UA F (ewww...)
105,000 miles + $268.36, $149.50 YQ (about $40 more than it priced out on ITA Matrix, thanks Aeroscam
). Wanted to try the AC 787 YYZ-YVR-NRT but it was $100 more expensive and this gets me faster to SIN. Hoping for an IRROP on NRT-SIN and getting switched to SQ F
Unfortunately, that meant $70.60 in added YQ and a $101.70 change fee.
Screw you Aeroplan for pulling YQ figures out of your ...:
What it should be:
Krug and the wonderful kaiseki on the NRT-SIN hop should soften that pain though.
Jan 27, 2015, 1:54 pm
#1968
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,297
U.S. International Transportation Tax$42.40
U.S Passenger Facility Charge$5.40
Jan 29, 2015, 8:24 pm
#1969
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 829
just took advantage of the new ANA F routes
Wednesday Sept 9 YYC-SEA 2 paid
Thurs Sept 10 SEA-NRT NH177 13:15-15:40 +1 (lands Fri Sept 11) 2F
Friday Sept 11 NRT-SIN NH801 18:05-00:05 +1 (lands Sat Sept 12) 1 F 1 J
Monday Sept 14 SIN-SGN SQ186 17:35-18:40 2J
Thursday Sept 17 SGN-SIN SQ173 12:30-15:25 2J
Friday Sept 18 SIN-NRT NH802 05:50am-14:00 1 F 1 J
Monday Sept 21 NRT-SEA NH178 17:55- 11:15 2F
Monday Sept 21 SEA-YYC Paid
Taxes for the booking were $921 each plus booking fee of $31.50
10SEP15SEA NH TYO R0.00NH SIN R0.00SQ SGN R0.00SQ X/SIN NH
TYO R0.00NH SEA R0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.00 XT34.10SW11.40OI
724.20YQ45.00US1.90C46.40XA8.90XY7.00YC7.10AY27.60 SG5.80OP
10.50OO25.40JC XF5.70SEA4.50
Wednesday Sept 9 YYC-SEA 2 paid
Thurs Sept 10 SEA-NRT NH177 13:15-15:40 +1 (lands Fri Sept 11) 2F
Friday Sept 11 NRT-SIN NH801 18:05-00:05 +1 (lands Sat Sept 12) 1 F 1 J
Monday Sept 14 SIN-SGN SQ186 17:35-18:40 2J
Thursday Sept 17 SGN-SIN SQ173 12:30-15:25 2J
Friday Sept 18 SIN-NRT NH802 05:50am-14:00 1 F 1 J
Monday Sept 21 NRT-SEA NH178 17:55- 11:15 2F
Monday Sept 21 SEA-YYC Paid
Taxes for the booking were $921 each plus booking fee of $31.50
10SEP15SEA NH TYO R0.00NH SIN R0.00SQ SGN R0.00SQ X/SIN NH
TYO R0.00NH SEA R0.00CAD0.00 END ROE1.00 XT34.10SW11.40OI
724.20YQ45.00US1.90C46.40XA8.90XY7.00YC7.10AY27.60 SG5.80OP
10.50OO25.40JC XF5.70SEA4.50
Jan 30, 2015, 2:01 am
#1970
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YOW
Programs: AC-SE100K, AC-3MM, Marriott- LT Titanium, SPG RIP
Posts: 2,958
So, it looks like the airline gods were looking out for me and NH decided to introduce an F cabin for NRT-SIN. Did a simple swap over to the NH segment and dropped the UA segment like it was hot, since there are many things that I would enjoy more than flying UA (e.g. picking up dog poop, or having to unclog a toilet.)
Unfortunately, that meant $70.60 in added YQ and a $101.70 change fee.
Screw you Aeroplan for pulling YQ figures out of your ...:
What it should be:
Krug and the wonderful kaiseki on the NRT-SIN hop should soften that pain though.
Unfortunately, that meant $70.60 in added YQ and a $101.70 change fee.
Screw you Aeroplan for pulling YQ figures out of your ...:
What it should be:
Krug and the wonderful kaiseki on the NRT-SIN hop should soften that pain though.
Jan 30, 2015, 7:17 pm
#1971
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
Woohoo another LH F redemption, in time for the family reunion in Hong Kong:
YYZ-YUL AC Y
YUL-MUC LH F
MUC-FRA LH J
FRA-PVG LH F (A380)
The good: Both longhaul LH F segments are showing empty cabins. There's also going to be 7 hours of MUC FCL/FRA FCT bliss.
The bad: Having to connect twice to get to FRA because the direct YYZ-FRA is surprisingly full.
The ugly: $627.56 in taxes ($496.00 YQ)
Oh, and YYZ-YUL is on the HD version of the 777. Pray for me I'll get that upgrade. 
YYZ-YUL AC Y
YUL-MUC LH F
MUC-FRA LH J
FRA-PVG LH F (A380)
The good: Both longhaul LH F segments are showing empty cabins. There's also going to be 7 hours of MUC FCL/FRA FCT bliss.
The bad: Having to connect twice to get to FRA because the direct YYZ-FRA is surprisingly full.
The ugly: $627.56 in taxes ($496.00 YQ)
Oh, and YYZ-YUL is on the HD version of the 777. Pray for me I'll get that upgrade.
Last edited by tng11; Jan 30, 2015 at 8:39 pm
Jan 30, 2015, 7:59 pm
#1972
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: SEA
Posts: 36
All of the segments are in Biz.
YXE-YYZ (AC) E90
YYZ-SAL (AV) A319
SAL-BOG (AV) A320
BOG-LIM (AV) A320
LIM-EZE (AV) A321
EZE-GRU (TK) 77W
GRU-BOG (AV) A330
BOG-MIA (AV) A330
MIA-IAH (UA) 738
IAH-YYZ (AC) CRJ7
YYZ-YXE (AC) E90
$350 plus the $31.50 booking fee.
I could have constructed the ticket with fewer segments, which would have reduced the airport taxes in South America, but I’m a sicko when it comes to traveling. I only wish that I didn’t have the IAH-YYZ with AC to reduce the BS fees, but it was the best option that was available to me.
YXE-YYZ (AC) E90
YYZ-SAL (AV) A319
SAL-BOG (AV) A320
BOG-LIM (AV) A320
LIM-EZE (AV) A321
EZE-GRU (TK) 77W
GRU-BOG (AV) A330
BOG-MIA (AV) A330
MIA-IAH (UA) 738
IAH-YYZ (AC) CRJ7
YYZ-YXE (AC) E90
$350 plus the $31.50 booking fee.
I could have constructed the ticket with fewer segments, which would have reduced the airport taxes in South America, but I’m a sicko when it comes to traveling. I only wish that I didn’t have the IAH-YYZ with AC to reduce the BS fees, but it was the best option that was available to me.
Jan 30, 2015, 8:01 pm
#1973
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: YUL
Posts: 969
Woohoo another LH F redemption, in time for the family reunion in Hong Kong:
YYZ-YUL AC Y
YUL-MUC LH F
MUC-FRA LH J
FRA-PVG LH F (A380)
The good: Both longhaul LH F segments are showing empty cabins. There's also going to be 7 hours of MUC FCL/FRA FCT bliss.
The bad: Having to connect twice to get to FRA because the direct YYZ-FRA is surprisingly full.
The ugly: $627.56 in taxes ($496.00 YQ)
YYZ-YUL AC Y
YUL-MUC LH F
MUC-FRA LH J
FRA-PVG LH F (A380)
The good: Both longhaul LH F segments are showing empty cabins. There's also going to be 7 hours of MUC FCL/FRA FCT bliss.
The bad: Having to connect twice to get to FRA because the direct YYZ-FRA is surprisingly full.
The ugly: $627.56 in taxes ($496.00 YQ)
Jan 30, 2015, 8:07 pm
#1974
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,666
I tried doing YYZ-YUL-MUC-ICN-HKG, exact same pricing but it was actually more expensive (I've booked YYZ-FRA-HKG before and charges are in this range - saving the BS NAVCAN fee and domestic German taxes.) I wanted to visit PVG anyways and get the A380, so I went for the first option.
Feb 4, 2015, 12:51 pm
#1975
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC 25K only, he said through tears from the back of the aircraft...
Posts: 563
YYZ-ORD UA J
ORD-NRT NH J
NRT-BKK NH J
BKK-PER TG J (open-jaw)
SYD-ICN OZ J
ICN-NRT OZ J (stop)
NRT-LAX UA J
LAX-YYZ AC J
$1,014.46 CAD (because of the NH and OZ segments, primarily)
ORD-NRT NH J
NRT-BKK NH J
BKK-PER TG J (open-jaw)
SYD-ICN OZ J
ICN-NRT OZ J (stop)
NRT-LAX UA J
LAX-YYZ AC J
$1,014.46 CAD (because of the NH and OZ segments, primarily)
Feb 4, 2015, 12:58 pm
#1976
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC E50K (*G) WS Gold | SPG/Fairmont Plat Hilton/Hyatt Diamond Marriott Silver | National Exec Elite
Posts: 19,284
YYZ LAX 2 in J on AC:
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee
$7.10
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge
$12.10
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax
$3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee
$25.00
U.S. International Transportation Tax
$45.00
U.S Agriculture Fee
$6.40
U.S Passenger Facility Charge
$5.70
Canada Goods And Service Tax
$4.06
U.S.A Immigration User Fee
$8.90
U.S. Customs User Fee
$7.00
Carrier Surcharge
$54.00
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services
$15.00
Total per passenger
$193.51
Total passengers
2
$387.02
U.S. Passenger Safety Fee
$7.10
Canada Domestic/International Air Travel Security Charge
$12.10
Canada Harmonized Sales Tax
$3.25
Canada Domestic/International Airport Improvement Fee
$25.00
U.S. International Transportation Tax
$45.00
U.S Agriculture Fee
$6.40
U.S Passenger Facility Charge
$5.70
Canada Goods And Service Tax
$4.06
U.S.A Immigration User Fee
$8.90
U.S. Customs User Fee
$7.00
Carrier Surcharge
$54.00
Nav Canada - Air Navigation Services
$15.00
Total per passenger
$193.51
Total passengers
2
$387.02
Feb 4, 2015, 3:45 pm
#1977
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
Its not the surcharges you should be mad about - its these fake taxes that AC collects, which are not required on award tickets - only AC knows what they do with the money. A nice scam they have going on transborder tickets.
U.S. International Transportation Tax$42.40
U.S Passenger Facility Charge$5.40
U.S. International Transportation Tax$42.40
U.S Passenger Facility Charge$5.40
Nah, my personal favorite has always been
"U.S Agriculture Fee $6.00"
For ???????
Feb 4, 2015, 3:49 pm
#1978
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,297
The US Transportation Tax and Facility Fee are not real taxes to be collected on awards - they are not collected by the US government - yet AC collects it.
Feb 4, 2015, 4:26 pm
#1979
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ZRH/YXU
Programs: A3*G, OZ*G, OW Sapphire
Posts: 526
Have a taste of this: Just booked ZRH-YYZ on AC through A3 (oneway) in Y. ...... waste of miles right, scamcharges up the wazoo? Nope. 70$ all in. Can anyone explain this? Wouldn't AC want scamcharges from all partners? This makes no sense...
Feb 4, 2015, 4:44 pm
#1980
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Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,297
The scamcharges go to the TICKETING carrier.