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Old Jan 6, 09, 8:46 am   #1
 
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How many SE/E/P are there?

Does anyone have any recent numbers on how many SE, E, and P there are out there?

For no real reason other than curiosity.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 9:08 am   #2
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This question gets asked about once a year.
The estimates in round numbers are usually 10,000 SE, 70,000 E, 250,000 P.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 9:17 am   #3
 
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will be interested to see how those numbers shift as a lot of business travel is scaled back....
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Old Jan 6, 09, 9:20 am   #4
 
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What about breakdowns by home airport? Is that too much to ask? I mean, YYZ has dedicated SE lines, but YHZ for example I imagine has a lot fewer...

in other words: how many people am I competing with for upgrades out of YHZ? hehe...
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Old Jan 6, 09, 9:27 am   #5
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in other words: how many people am I competing with for upgrades out of YHZ? hehe...
Aside from all the people who have to get back to YYZ? A misconception is that upgrades are easier when not in an "elite heavy" airport, yet those from "elite heavy" airports get status by flying somewhere.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 10:17 am   #6
 
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This question gets asked about once a year.
The estimates in round numbers are usually 10,000 SE, 70,000 E, 250,000 P.
Where did you find those numbers? They are pretty accurate except for *P.

According to the all knowing, the numbers break down as follows:

57000 P, 68000 E, and 9000 SE.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 11:10 am   #7
 
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will be interested to see how those numbers shift as a lot of business travel is scaled back....
Note that E is very easy to obtain on AC, and you can do on 100% STAR (non-AC) metal if so inclined. There are a number of US Es that find it cheaper to do 35K sm each year with Aeroplan than pay for UA RCC etc.
I don't know what the effect will be- perhaps hit SEs- although most the SEs (or equivalent) I know are actually travelling MORE now for work not less.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 12:24 pm   #8
 
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Huh?

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Where did you find those numbers? They are pretty accurate except for *P.

According to the all knowing, the numbers break down as follows:

57000 P, 68000 E, and 9000 SE.
More E's than P's? That seems counter-inituitive...no?

Come to think of it, I guess the small window between P and E would explain the numbers.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 12:31 pm   #9
 
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Where did you find those numbers? They are pretty accurate except for *P.

According to the all knowing, the numbers break down as follows:

57000 P, 68000 E, and 9000 SE.
According to the site, those numbers are from 3 years ago...
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Old Jan 6, 09, 12:37 pm   #10
 
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According to the site, those numbers are from 3 years ago...
So? It still gives a rough idea.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 12:39 pm   #11
 
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So? It still gives a rough idea.
Relax - just pointing out why they might be different from the other numbers reported...
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Old Jan 6, 09, 12:44 pm   #12
 
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Relax - just pointing out why they might be different from the other numbers reported...
I didn't mean that with any mean-ness. I'm relaxed.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 1:20 pm   #13
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Where did you find those numbers? They are pretty accurate except for *P.

According to the all knowing, the numbers break down as follows:

57000 P, 68000 E, and 9000 SE.
Not so sure about these numbers, as Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable when uncited statements are given. The number of Ps dropped considerably when AC moved to 25K from 18K a couple of years ago. SEs have ranged between 6K-10K and Es in the 50K-70K range. There are previous threads on this subject which give more reliable numbers going back to 2000.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 2:09 pm   #14
 
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Not so sure about these numbers, as Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable when uncited statements are given.
It got the information from this forum, so it must be true.
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Old Jan 6, 09, 2:25 pm   #15
 
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According to Aeroplan, 2006 did see more members reach E and SE than previous years.

The last that I heard was from a Concierge agent in October who quoted the number of Elites at 45,000.
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