May 11, 2017, 3:09 pm
Last edit by: yyznomad
Such that it is actually searchable text - one of the important changes to the Aeroplan program in 2019 for Super Elites:
New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
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New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15¤tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
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Air Canada to Launch Its Own Loyalty Program in 2020
May 11, 2017, 7:13 am
#61
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: YQB
Programs: UA Gold - Hyatt Plat - Nexus
Posts: 400
1.3 million miles here, I was looking at the opportunity within the next couple of years to redeem a once-in-a-lifetime family RTW.
Quite worried that the rush to the exits will create issues.
Quite worried that the rush to the exits will create issues.
May 11, 2017, 7:25 am
#62
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,784
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-...plan-1.4109868
ouch, ouch, ouch
so Aeroplan can't redeem on OTHER *A carriers? .....this is worse than Air Miles
Any Aeroplan points they already have, however, will still be available to exchange for Air Canada flights, "with pricing competitive with other third-party rewards programs."
That's not the case for flights on Air Canada's Star Alliance partners, which includes United Airlines, Air China, Lufthansa and many more. After 2020, rewards for flights on other Star Alliance partners will only be available through the new Air Canada program.
Aeroplan customers also won't be able to convert their points into Air Canada's new program.
That's not the case for flights on Air Canada's Star Alliance partners, which includes United Airlines, Air China, Lufthansa and many more. After 2020, rewards for flights on other Star Alliance partners will only be available through the new Air Canada program.
Aeroplan customers also won't be able to convert their points into Air Canada's new program.
so Aeroplan can't redeem on OTHER *A carriers? .....this is worse than Air Miles
May 11, 2017, 7:26 am
#63
Join Date: Apr 2008
Programs: AC SE100, Bonvoy Platinum Elite
Posts: 63
Seeing as how there are likely many people here with millions of miles that can't be burned in time, what would you guys think about a site that links miles holders with buyers of those miles? I am thinking of a site where:
1 - buyer comes in and posts their wish: 2 tickets from Toronto to Vancouver on March 7 return March 13
2 - Miles holders submit a bid to book that ticket, including taxes/fees with their AP miles
3 - customer agrees on a bid, submits payment to miles member via online payment platform using a CC (Swipe or some other transaction payment provider to process it, costing about 2.5% + service fee to web site operator of say $50)
Thoughts? Does this violate Aeroplan's TOS?
1 - buyer comes in and posts their wish: 2 tickets from Toronto to Vancouver on March 7 return March 13
2 - Miles holders submit a bid to book that ticket, including taxes/fees with their AP miles
3 - customer agrees on a bid, submits payment to miles member via online payment platform using a CC (Swipe or some other transaction payment provider to process it, costing about 2.5% + service fee to web site operator of say $50)
Thoughts? Does this violate Aeroplan's TOS?
May 11, 2017, 7:27 am
#64
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New York and Vienna
Programs: PA WorldPass Platinum, AA, DL, LH. GHA Black, SPG and HHonors Gold
Posts: 3,870
Maybe Air Canada will call the new program "Altitude". They did drop a hint that the Altitude branding will be retained in some fashion and that would give continuity.
Above cited from After Spinning Off Its Aeroplan Frequent Flyer Program in 2002, Air Canada Will Start a New One
Personally I think using a famliar name would be a good idea.
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This link is to an online source to which I contribute and/or have a financial interest.
Air Canada said that the company will continue the Air Canada Altitude elite status levels and their associated range of travel privileges and miles accumulated with Aeroplan will continue to count towards million-miler status...
Personally I think using a famliar name would be a good idea.
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This link is to an online source to which I contribute and/or have a financial interest.
May 11, 2017, 7:28 am
#65
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE 2MM
Posts: 16,632
I don't think so. The cost of establishing its new program is pretty low, and buying Aimia entails taking on the huge points liability. This way they start with a clean slate.
May 11, 2017, 7:36 am
#66
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,810
I think this is what we can expect come 2020:
-No more fixed mileage redemptions on Aeroplan (like many already predicted). Members can only redeem via market fares. This is a huge punishment for those who only earn through credit cards
-AC significantly ramps up the mileage levels required for Altitude redemptions when it begins managing its own FFP in house. (See DL for SkyMiles redemption changes in the past couple of years.)
-No more fixed mileage redemptions on Aeroplan (like many already predicted). Members can only redeem via market fares. This is a huge punishment for those who only earn through credit cards
-AC significantly ramps up the mileage levels required for Altitude redemptions when it begins managing its own FFP in house. (See DL for SkyMiles redemption changes in the past couple of years.)
May 11, 2017, 7:38 am
#67
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,237
Overdue, i think this really benefits AC. Too many people think Aeroplan and AC are same thing. Well that has not been true for years and this break from Aeroplan/Aimia will drive that home.
Now when can we finally get separate forums , also overdue. Let all the Aeroplan whining happen on it's own.
Now when can we finally get separate forums , also overdue. Let all the Aeroplan whining happen on it's own.
May 11, 2017, 7:39 am
#68
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 394
Yeah, I do the same (but every 12-18 months), but I think next year's might be my last. I don't know that any CC perq might get me as much value, actually, but I'll that's a question for another forum.
May 11, 2017, 7:39 am
#69
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AC SE100k, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver
Posts: 2,646
1) Like many others, I need to make a bigger effort to use all my Aeroplan miles before the deadline.
2) Looks like they plan on keeping the MM program until at least some time past June 2020.
2) Looks like they plan on keeping the MM program until at least some time past June 2020.
May 11, 2017, 7:49 am
#71
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan, Bonvoy, Alaska, Avios
Posts: 1,290
AIM @ $4.00!!!
Wonder if there was any mysterious short trades placed in the proceeding few days?
Edit now 3.63
$3.55
Wonder if there was any mysterious short trades placed in the proceeding few days?
Edit now 3.63
$3.55
Last edited by mikeycanuk; May 11, 2017 at 7:55 am
May 11, 2017, 7:53 am
#73
Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: air miles
Posts: 283
I'm surprised that no one is postulating that this is a great opportunity for AC to blow up Altitude and greatly "enhance" it.
It'll also be interesting to see what Aeroplan evolves into - first off, the name will make no sense anymore since it will have nothing to do with flying. This move is going to generate tremendous confusion in the marketplace.
From a business point of view, I really can't see the small Canadian market needing another points program either.
Interesting times ahead.
It'll also be interesting to see what Aeroplan evolves into - first off, the name will make no sense anymore since it will have nothing to do with flying. This move is going to generate tremendous confusion in the marketplace.
From a business point of view, I really can't see the small Canadian market needing another points program either.
Interesting times ahead.
May 11, 2017, 8:08 am
#75
Formerly known as newbie elite
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: YUL
Programs: IHG Diamond Ambassador, Accor Platinum, AC50K
Posts: 2,923
Not surprising in the least and why people have been saying FOR AGES (as long as I have been a member here at least) to burn the points as fast as you could churn them. Thank you AE for the many LH F and BR J flights, was a blast!