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Such that it is actually searchable text - one of the important changes to the Aeroplan program in 2019 for Super Elites:
New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
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New for Air Canada Altitude Super Elite 100K members: Complimentary changes and refunds
Beginning July 15, 2019, Air Canada Super Elite 100K members will no longer be charged a fee when they request a change to their Flight Reward booking. Additionally, these members will also no longer be charged a fee to refund their bookings. These fee waivers will apply to all bookings, including those made prior to the new policy coming into effect.
Read the below screenshots for the rest.
July 15 2019
"AEROPLAN FLIGHT REWARDS: NOW WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PEACE-OF-MIND"
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/news_articles.do?dl=WhatsNew_WEBUP31000285_2019_07 _15tLanguage=en
New chart with fees in this post
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31306687-post1334.html
Older news releases from 2017 below
Air Canada "What You Need to Know"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...d-to-know.html
Air Canada Press Release May 11, 2017
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1135
Aeroplan News "To Our Valued Members" - May 11, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/whats_new/...New_2017_05_09
Aeroplan & Air Canada update
We'd like to help our members understand the latest news about our partner, Air Canada.
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-...id=BAN30000311
From Aeroplan - UPDATE May 31, 2017
https://www5.aeroplan.com/aircanada-and-aeroplan-update.do
Aeroplan Saga Ends in a Long, Financial Detour:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...ticle35080509/
August 11 2017
"We're on solid ground so your plans can take flight."
https://www.aeroplan.com/program-updates.do?currentLanguage=en&cid=008692096
"Five things you need to know about your miles"
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
September 19, 2017 - Investor Day Presentation
https://www.aeroplan.com/five-things-about-your-miles.do?currentLanguage=en
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Air Canada to Launch Its Own Loyalty Program in 2020
#46
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,393
I wonder if this is a ploy by AC to buy out Aimia at a deep discount. I'm not a securities lawyer so I have no idea whether they could get away with it. AC could then spin off the management of non-airline programs.
#47
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,103
#48
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YOW
Programs: AC-SE100K, AC-3MM, Marriott- LT Titanium, SPG RIP
Posts: 2,954
That is an Altitude benefit- not an AP benefit. Aeroplan never gave that to you. It was Air Canada. Hope it stays, but we will see what AC does with things like this.
#49
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: AC
Posts: 2,167
The issue is that there is x Billion points sitting out there waiting to be redeemed. Many, many people will now expedite those redemptions to get maximum value (ie before AP is forced into only a market -fare based redemption system. I believe it will now be more difficult to redeem over the next 3 years.
I don't think it'll affect us that much and I surmise most users of Aeroplan simply hoard their miles and don't know what to do with them, short of redeeming for TVs and the like.
#50
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 576
The issue is that there is x Billion points sitting out there waiting to be redeemed. Many, many people will now expedite those redemptions to get maximum value (ie before AP is forced into only a market -fare based redemption system. I believe it will now be more difficult to redeem over the next 3 years.
Edited to add: Doesn't matter if it's flights or merchandise - they simply can't pay for it all...
#51
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YOW
Programs: AC-SE100K, AC-3MM, Marriott- LT Titanium, SPG RIP
Posts: 2,954
Hhhhmmmmm! Interesting point. I guess only time will tell.
#52
Join Date: May 2015
Location: EXT, sometimes NYC/LON/YQT
Programs: Aeroplan, SPG/Marriott, Radisson Rewards
Posts: 774
You guys with like 1mil points hoarded (who didn't participate in EYW)... WHAT?!
My current balance? 31k. I never keep more than I need at once in the account, if I can help it. Earn 'em and burn 'em! Any other strategy is insane.
My current balance? 31k. I never keep more than I need at once in the account, if I can help it. Earn 'em and burn 'em! Any other strategy is insane.
#54
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
Be careful. Aimia renewed the NCIB yesterday, so they are going to be backstopping the market today.
#55
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
#56
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE 1MM, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 3,392
On points transfer, from the FAQ:
Q: Will I be able to transfer my Aeroplan Miles into the new Air Canada program?
A: No. Aeroplan Miles earned up to June 2020 stay in the Aeroplan program and may be redeemed for Aeroplan Rewards. That said, Air Canada expects to continue making Air Canada flights available for Aeroplan redemption. Star Alliance partner rewards will only be available through the new Air Canada program.
My issue is that there is simply no way that I won't end up stranding 1m+ points. I have 1.5m now, even if I burn all those in the next 2-3 years, I will earn another 1-2m in the next 3 years. Assuming flying patters remain the same, any SE is going to strand at least 3 or 4 hundred thousands points (the amount they will earn in 2019). Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Not to mention that without AC I would imagine AE has a moderate chance of flat out going bankrupt, rendering all points worthless.
Either AC really truly doesn't care at all about how this impacts AE/AC/Altitude members, it is a ploy to drive AE into a market value of $1 so they can be bought cheaply, or they just didn't think this through...
Q: Will I be able to transfer my Aeroplan Miles into the new Air Canada program?
A: No. Aeroplan Miles earned up to June 2020 stay in the Aeroplan program and may be redeemed for Aeroplan Rewards. That said, Air Canada expects to continue making Air Canada flights available for Aeroplan redemption. Star Alliance partner rewards will only be available through the new Air Canada program.
My issue is that there is simply no way that I won't end up stranding 1m+ points. I have 1.5m now, even if I burn all those in the next 2-3 years, I will earn another 1-2m in the next 3 years. Assuming flying patters remain the same, any SE is going to strand at least 3 or 4 hundred thousands points (the amount they will earn in 2019). Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Not to mention that without AC I would imagine AE has a moderate chance of flat out going bankrupt, rendering all points worthless.
Either AC really truly doesn't care at all about how this impacts AE/AC/Altitude members, it is a ploy to drive AE into a market value of $1 so they can be bought cheaply, or they just didn't think this through...
#57
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: AC MM E50 , Former SPG, now Marriott LT Plat
Posts: 6,246
What SHOULD happen in a new program:
Fixed mileage charts ( similar to present) with slightly more availability ( say 10%
instead of the current 8%) - but only available for redemption via points earned from
BIS flying.
All other points ( i.e. credit card, car rental, etc) -only can be used for market fare
rewards.
Fixed mileage charts ( similar to present) with slightly more availability ( say 10%
instead of the current 8%) - but only available for redemption via points earned from
BIS flying.
All other points ( i.e. credit card, car rental, etc) -only can be used for market fare
rewards.
#58
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE 1MM, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 3,392
What SHOULD happen in a new program:
Fixed mileage charts ( similar to present) with slightly more availability ( say 10%
instead of the current 8%) - but only available for redemption via points earned from
BIS flying.
All other points ( i.e. credit card, car rental, etc) -only can be used for market fare
rewards.
Fixed mileage charts ( similar to present) with slightly more availability ( say 10%
instead of the current 8%) - but only available for redemption via points earned from
BIS flying.
All other points ( i.e. credit card, car rental, etc) -only can be used for market fare
rewards.
#59
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: YYC
Posts: 4,035
What SHOULD happen in a new program:
Fixed mileage charts ( similar to present) with slightly more availability ( say 10% instead of the current 8%) - but only available for redemption via points earned from BIS flying.
All other points ( i.e. credit card, car rental, etc) -only can be used for market fare rewards.
Fixed mileage charts ( similar to present) with slightly more availability ( say 10% instead of the current 8%) - but only available for redemption via points earned from BIS flying.
All other points ( i.e. credit card, car rental, etc) -only can be used for market fare rewards.
0% chance that happens, and that's a good thing.
#60
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Mississauga Ontario
Posts: 4,085
It's already influencing my spend decisions.
I was going to buy Mrs ITAG an unlimited NA flight pass at $10k for next several flights. I'll burn off 1KK miles instead, knowing it will reset in December.
She'll hit SE mid-summer too. So I'll use her new SE 1KK status to burn off her miles to book flights for me, that I would otherwise spend on. I was going to buy an unlimited NA 3 month pass at $21K for the fall but will likely do that via points.
So I figure that's $45,000 in spend I might not give Air Canada unless they do something.
I was going to buy Mrs ITAG an unlimited NA flight pass at $10k for next several flights. I'll burn off 1KK miles instead, knowing it will reset in December.
She'll hit SE mid-summer too. So I'll use her new SE 1KK status to burn off her miles to book flights for me, that I would otherwise spend on. I was going to buy an unlimited NA 3 month pass at $21K for the fall but will likely do that via points.
So I figure that's $45,000 in spend I might not give Air Canada unless they do something.
Last edited by InTheAirGuy; May 11, 2017 at 8:13 am