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Old Jan 18, 2017, 12:53 pm
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incorrect e-ups calcualted

Have a LAt Pass . USed e-ups at time of booking. booking has an overnight connection. Was booked online in the flight pass section. It calculated 3 credits instead of 2.
Called in. I explained it must be a glitch due to an overnight connection. Explained that I've had this in the past many times and called in to have it changed. On hold 25 minutes.

Response , Sir, your connection time is more than 10 hours so it calculates 3 credits.

I hung up !



I'm so fed up wasting my time on the phone.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 12:55 pm
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I'm not convinced the agent is wrong in this case.

For a North American itinerary, a 10 hour connection is not a connection. Therefore the eUp system charges you for each segment.

You'll be able to get a complimentary upgrade at T-48, right, so is it worth the hassle of dealing with this over 1 credit?
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 12:58 pm
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iI, no, it's not worth the hassle off course.

E-up are from point of origin to destination I thought.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 1:01 pm
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Originally Posted by RZR
iI, no, it's not worth the hassle off course.

E-up are from point of origin to destination I thought.
Yes and No, when a NA connection is beyond 4hrs (not 10) it is no longer considered a connection but just 2 different flights on the same file.

I had the same situation in the past doing a YEG-YYZ-MSY with an over night connection in YYZ, it required 2 eupgrades. Considering I was not interested in the red eye, I was ok with this.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 1:32 pm
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I don’t agree. If you do YUL-LAS with a 10 hour connection in YYZ , it’s 2e-ups on a lat fare with no over night.

I think the overnight is what messes the system up.

Anyhow, It will be free upgrade.

IT is simply just incredibly unreal how Poor AC is at i.t etc. I can only imagine how frustrating it is for those of you who fly allot
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by RZR
I don’t agree. If you do YUL-LAS with a 10 hour connection in YYZ , it’s 2e-ups on a lat fare with no over night.
Further to what canadiancow and hearna have said, it's always been my understanding that a connection is <4 hours unless the next available flight is later. So if you fly into YYZ at such a time that the next flight to LAS is in 10 hours, that's probably more of a corner case than something representative of the definition of a connection.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 1:45 pm
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I thought it was 4h, but on the eupgrade system it is 10h apparently. The link to the original terms on the AC website has been changed, and I cannot seem to find the specifics anymore, but if you reference

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...-stopover.html

Originally Posted by sinalet
AC explicitly defines this on their eUpgrade site:

http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...lculation.html
When requesting an upgrade for an entire one-way itinerary, connections will be calculated as follows:
- A connection between two flights wholly within Canada and the United States may last up to 10 hours, even when traveling on an international itinerary.
- A connection between a flight within Canada & the United States and a flight beyond Canada & the United States may last up to 24 hours.
You did not have to start 2 threads about AC's impossible IT, it has been like that for years and will remain like that for years to come.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 1:55 pm
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Funny how everyone blames AC IT, but in this particular case, it looks like AC IT worked as planned.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 3:12 pm
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Funny how everyone blames AC IT, but in this particular case, it looks like AC IT worked as planned.
Indeed. In this case, not a silly IT issue. Just a silly alternate definition of stopover.
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