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Jan 20, 2017, 6:28 pm

#286

krayZpaving

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Definitely an improvement in visibility of availability for IKK since yesterday though.

Jan 20, 2017, 9:15 pm

#287

Jumper Jack

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I just discovered the magic of IKK, seeing full J availability on YYZ-YVR was.. climaxing.

I may never have to buy another ticket for a long... long time.

Jan 20, 2017, 9:36 pm

#288

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jumper Jack

I just discovered the magic of IKK, seeing full J availability on YYZ-YVR was.. climaxing.

I may never have to buy another ticket for a long... long time.

I'm pretty sure we don't get IKK as E50.....

Jan 20, 2017, 9:39 pm

#289

Jumper Jack

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ffsim

I'm pretty sure we don't get IKK as E50.....

Yes thats true..... But....

:P
I guess at least domestically seems pretty good J.

Last edited by Jumper Jack; Jan 20, 2017 at 9:46 pm

Jan 20, 2017, 10:44 pm

#290

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ffsim

I'm pretty sure we don't get IKK as E50.....

I'm sure TangoJack was referring to when he logs in with his father's account...you know, so he can salivate as his father mysteriously donates one of his Priority Rewards to his favourite son..

Jan 21, 2017, 2:06 am

#291

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ffsim

I'm pretty sure we don't get IKK as E50.....

There was a time that Elites could do IKK at double the mileage rate... Was that taken away at some point in the last few years?

Forgive me for asking as I don't know anything about E50K priveleges.

Jan 21, 2017, 2:13 am

#292

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YYT82

Was the Z+R theory proven or acknowledged officially? Because I see IKK availability for routes where R=1 and Z=0.

I was the one pushing that theory the hardest IMO. Over a two day span I 'tested' >150 flights and it held true every time.

Jan 21, 2017, 2:13 am

#293

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yyznomad

There was a time that Elites could do IKK at double the mileage rate... Was that taken away at some point in the last few years?

Forgive me for asking as I don't know anything about E50K priveleges.

Still there, but only for Y.

Jan 21, 2017, 2:16 am

#294

Jumper Jack

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Originally Posted by eigenvector

Still there, but only for Y.

Well, but I am pretty sure SE gets additional Y redemption inventory as well.
Case in point, I was looking at YYZ-YVR dates where even E75K Priority Rewards was turning up nothing except long connections, and today almost all Y flights on that day poped up.

Jan 21, 2017, 2:19 am

#295

Dorian

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YVRHKG looks very back to normal. IMO there is no change from before. Any day with R>0 you can IKK.

Jan 21, 2017, 5:12 am

#296

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorian

YVRHKG looks very back to normal. IMO there is no change from before. Any day with R>0 you can IKK.

TPAC routes aren't the problems. I found problems with some TATL routes, and that's where the YQ waiver makes the biggest difference.

Jan 21, 2017, 6:08 am

#297

KenHamer

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I can't believe how long it took them to fix this.

I thought it would take much, much longer.

I'd still like to know what precipitated this.

And part of me wonders if it was a trial balloon.

Jan 21, 2017, 6:10 am

#298

KenHamer

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And if it was a trial balloon, do you really think they would admit it?

Or would they just claim it was a glitch?

Jan 21, 2017, 6:11 am

#299

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And part of me wonders if they have done any models to determine how much they could save on their expenses if they just flew the planes empty.

Jan 21, 2017, 8:33 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YYT82

TPAC routes aren't the problems. I found problems with some TATL routes, and that's where the YQ waiver makes the biggest difference.

I believe you mean TPAC routes aren't you're problem.

There was no IKK on any TPAC route, the only direction I use IKK for.